found on late 1700s site

pinebarrens1 · Dec 24, 2010

very small fire able cannon very small .............i love it . anybody can date it ... someone looks like they put to much powder in it and blew it out

spartacus53 · Dec 24, 2010

That is a sweet find AL :icon_thumleft:

I say repair her and fire her up once again :tongue3:

Can't help you on a date, but I would say it's from the late 1800's, then again, I'm surely no expert, but I do love relics like those.

steelheadwill · Dec 24, 2010

Sweet Find!
Still hoping to find a big one out in my mudflats!

Damon64 · Dec 25, 2010

Cool cannon. I have found many relics that exactly resemble the other one above it.

romeo-1 · Dec 25, 2010

Odds are that dates more to the early to mid 1700s...it's really a great find and something near the top of my list!

Iron Patch · Dec 25, 2010

I like it, and good the damage is at the bottom. I think the amount of these posted tends to make it seem as if they are fairly common but that's not the case for most places.

pinebarrens1 · Dec 25, 2010

it was the last find of the day . i dug many bullets that day , and was getimg tired of digging . so i sayed a not so deep objest and in the copper area on my xs ......i was happy i got it .

ANTIQUARIAN · Dec 25, 2010

Now that's a really beautiful find!

leefields · Dec 25, 2010

ok...so he is holding this in his hand...fully charged...the bottom blows out....

he looses 3 maybe 4 fingers...the palm of his hand...

that was one long day for the previous owner... :help:

CMDiamonddawg · Dec 25, 2010

leefields said:
ok...so he is holding this in his hand...fully charged...the bottom blows out....

he looses 3 maybe 4 fingers...the palm of his hand...

that was one long day for the previous owner...

uch , that's gonna leave a mark ::)

Hope that didn't happen ! Nice cannon pinebarrens1 :thumbsup:

Woodland Detectors · Dec 25, 2010

That is a really, really nice relic~

BuckleBoy · Dec 26, 2010

That is a rare find for the states. Seems like these were not manufactured here at all, but rather carried over from Europe in peoples' or childrens' pockets. I have seen some posted dug in Canada, and some posted from Europe. Not too many found in the states. But it is at least an early to mid 1700s find. Great recovery! :thumbsup:

Best Wishes,

Buckleboy

Iron Patch · Dec 26, 2010

BuckleBoy said:
That is a rare find for the states. Seems like these were not manufactured here at all, but rather carried over from Europe in peoples' or childrens' pockets. I have seen some posted dug in Canada, and some posted from Europe. Not too many found in the states. But it is at least an early to mid 1700s find. Great recovery!

Best Wishes,

Buckleboy

You won't see more posted from Canada than the US. (probably far less) The majority are definitely found in the UK, and there is a lot, but it's hard to say how common a find it is considering how many people are digging. A few years back there was quite a few types of targets, especially coins, that I thought the typical Brit was probably finding on a regular basis, but it ended up being far from the truth. That I believe has a lot to do with why some finds don't get the credit they deserve, because it's assumed it's easy to find where the person was detecting. I know when the boys post up their 2nd American buttons... which are killer buttons, no one really seems to care. But yet any confederate rocks the place. :laughing7:

Oh well, I guess if we're all equally guilty in one way or another it all evens out.

Oh, and I totally agree made in Europe and taken here.

hikeinmts · Dec 26, 2010

Help me out, someone....anyone.....were those used as a toy, or were they used for other purposes?
Don't know, and want to finish out the old year a little smarter.....

traverdog · Dec 26, 2010

I believe the canon was used as a toy. I'd love to hunt where it was found.

pinebarrens1 · Dec 26, 2010

i dont think it was a toy ..... the way it was blown open on the bottom . i think it shot small round shots ...... the opening is just as wide as a small caliber round

BuckleBoy · Dec 26, 2010

pinebarrens1 said:
i dont think it was a toy ..... the way it was blown open on the bottom . i think it shot small round shots ...... the opening is just as wide as a small caliber round

I feel certain that this was a toy. There were miniature guns for kids to shoot in the 18th c. and earlier, and these are found in europe with some frequency. They, like the cannon, just fired a little powder charge.

These were dangerous toys it is true, but I do think they were toys--just as I am convinced that the toy axes and hatchets dug here in the states were toys as well.

Best Wishes,

Buckles

Iron Patch · Dec 26, 2010

BuckleBoy said:
pinebarrens1 said:

i dont think it was a toy ..... the way it was blown open on the bottom . i think it shot small round shots ...... the opening is just as wide as a small caliber round

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I feel certain that this was a toy. There were miniature guns for kids to shoot in the 18th c. and earlier, and these are found in europe with some frequency. They, like the cannon, just fired a little powder charge.

These were dangerous toys it is true, but I do think they were toys--just as I am convinced that the toy axes and hatchets dug here in the states were toys as well.

Best Wishes,

Buckles

Toy cannons are still very popular today and there's no shortage of little cannons mounted on the carriage for sale. The difference is the more modern ones tend to be made of lower grade metal.

The suggestion it might have been a weapon (?) I think puts one too many roses on the glasses.

PS... Found one a couple of years ago.

CRUSADER · Dec 28, 2010

Most of these toy cannon date to the 18th Century, but nearly 40% of them carry into the 19th Century. This style is 18th C however, I think it more likely late than early. :icon_thumright: