Freemason lighthouse from the 1700s

[hmmm]

Freemason lighthouse from the 1700's

OK ,this one should be hot.
many of you remember "Dem bones"
skull and cross bones,
john swifts silver mine,
a 1421 Chinese coin,
a 1790 German coin ,
a 1804 stash of 500,000 silver coins .
viking looking artifacts.
solstice caves and so on.

I have speculated the skull and cross bones i have seen where the work of the free masons and they where dated to the mid 1700's. but the proof was not really there for such a skeptical world.
the boards and boxes are all the same, some call them Indian bent wood coffins, some call them shipping crates. but all agree they exist.
finally after years of searching i was pointed to a cave with more then a skull and a few bones.
it is big , it has broken boxes , wood dowels, cloth, leather and body parts all over, i came to the conclusion it is a Spanish lighthouse/smelter that was attacked.
but after looking out the entrance i see the mark of the freemasons.
if you look of in the distance you see open ocean on the west coast of America, if the ship looks up the channel , they would see the sign of the freemasons, they would know it was a safe run straight to the light, as long as the light was seen they where safe, Vere off and they end up on the rocks. they would head to it and end up at the old lost Spanish town of ?? . my guess would be , nova albion.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

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Is this the same King George?

 

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[curbdiggercarl57]

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Reading all of this joy, most of me says, "why?", but enough of me says "what the Hey, it's the Holiday season!". It's like Harry Potter for invalids, but with a little Nicholas Cage bad/weird movie quality to it. Some needs to be set to rhyme, some omitted. Is the basis real? True sadness presented to us? Are we dealing with a master card shark? Played like my third girlfriend managed to let me do to myself for ohhh so long? Or a happy, "Shawshank Redemption" beach scene will soon unfold? This could be set to old time radio. Trying to find a some music to create a little soundtrack-like atmosphere, real difficult. Well, back to my form of reality, Happy Holidays!
Carl

 

[traderoftreasures]

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when the canoe has tipped over and the wheels are sticking up, how many pancakes you can you put in a dog house true or false ?

 

[Shootncoin]

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Just for a frame of reference to all those reading this thread and the dilusional and sometimes paranoid rantings of Hmmm, I have included a little history of the area he seems to be desecrating. From the map Hmmm provided earlier in this thread, he seems to be treasure hunting in the Pacific Rim National Park Reserve, in particular, he seems to be focused on the Broken Group Islands.

Under the Canadian National Parks Act, it is illegal to, among other things, “collect and remove natural or cultural objects”. A "national park reserve" is a specific provision under the Canada National Parks Act acknowledging there may be outstanding rights or interest in the area by First Nations.

Evidence found in 290 archaeological sites indicates the presence of man in the park area for at least 4300 years. Nuu-chah-nulth creation legends place them on Vancouver Island since the beginning of the world. At the time of the first European contact, they found a complex society of over 9000 inhabitants. In 1787, Captain Charles Barkley traded with the natives for sea otter furs and his route was quickly followed. There ensued a history of deadly European-native conflicts. Foreign traders brought diseases against which the native people had no defense - warfare and epidemics reduced west coast populations by 75-90% -

With that said, I offer the following thoughts:
1) Police would not ignore the finding of skeletal remains, nor would they allow someone to violate the National Parks Act.
2) The Nuu-Chah-Nulth people would not allow some goof-ball to enter and desecrate the burial caves of their ancestors.
3) Hmmm is treading on dangerous ground – I know what I would do if I found someone trying to dig up my grandfather –
4) For the love of all things sacred, Hmmm, please start using spell check. Your command of the English language, coupled with your incoherent rantings, make your posts nearly impossible to follow.

 

[hmmm]

Re: Freemason lighthouse from the 1700's

Just for a frame of reference to all those reading this thread and the delusional and sometimes paranoid rantings of Hmmm, I have included a little history of the area he seems to be desecrating. From the map Hmmm provided earlier in this thread, he seems to be treasure hunting in the Pacific Rim National Park Reserve, in particular, he seems to be focused on the Broken Group Islands.

Under the Canadian National Parks Act, it is illegal to, among other things, “collect and remove natural or cultural objects”. A "national park reserve" is a specific provision under the Canada National Parks Act acknowledging there may be outstanding rights or interest in the area by First Nations.

Evidence found in 290 archaeological sites indicates the presence of man in the park area for at least 4300 years. Nuu-chah-nulth creation legends place them on Vancouver Island since the beginning of the world. At the time of the first European contact, they found a complex society of over 9000 inhabitants. In 1787, Captain Charles Barkley traded with the natives for sea otter furs and his route was quickly followed. There ensued a history of deadly European-native conflicts. Foreign traders brought diseases against which the native people had no defense - warfare and epidemics reduced west coast populations by 75-90% -

With that said, I offer the following thoughts:
1) Police would not ignore the finding of skeletal remains, nor would they allow someone to violate the National Parks Act.
2) The Nuu-Chah-Nulth people would not allow some goof-ball to enter and desecrate the burial caves of their ancestors.
3) Hmmm is treading on dangerous ground – I know what I would do if I found someone trying to dig up my grandfather –
4) For the love of all things sacred, Hmmm, please start using spell check. Your command of the English language, coupled with your incoherent rantings, make your posts nearly impossible to follow.

Well said.

So you are thinking that these threads are not good marketing for the website?

just for the record, i have not set foot on a island in the broken group since i was 15 years old. i have not desecrated the burial grounds of a relative of the local tribes. the victim with the badge is a murder victim from the past and the cops are taking the murders seriously.
i don't understand why only Indians bones can be found in caves. how come a sailor from the 1700's could not be placed in a cave.
i would think pictures of the skulls , as plehaba suggested could settle this once and for all.
as for the burial caves, the powers that be say the Indians where tossed in the caves because they had small pox, if this where true would not the whole body be there.
plehaba you offered to help if i admitted i take medication, i do not, and do not need them. when the first dinosaur bone was found, haw many people told the guy to go back on his meds.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

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This is offically the 140th of 178 post on this topic.

Plus 3148 (and counting) views.

The artifacts found are interesting!

But personally I don't see anything "cool" about disturbing a burial site.

 

[aaron7]

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I'm not even going to read all the replies.

You need to get out of there and let someone who knows what they are doing in there.

Will you lose the discovery? Maybe. But beats you destroying it before someone else can properly check the site out.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

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Cool cross hmmm!

 

[Skrimpy]

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Uh-oh.

 

[Tnmountains]

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Hmmm can you get some pics of the teeth for Plehbah?

 

[Skrimpy]

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...the victim with the badge is a murder victim from the past and the cops are taking the murders seriously....

Here in the U.S., removing items from a crime scene is called "evidence tampering", "interfering with an investigation" and possibly "obstruction". If that is in fact a murder scene RCMP is not going to be very happy with you.

 

[hmmm]

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...the victim with the badge is a murder victim from the past and the cops are taking the murders seriously....

Here in the U.S., removing items from a crime scene is called "evidence tampering", "interfering with an investigation" and possibly "obstruction". If that is in fact a murder scene RCMP is not going to be very happy with you.

you have to understand, the crime scene is over 100 years old. to the cops, there is no crime within a time frame they can work with. They videoed me at the site, you can see nothing and there is no evidence of a burial, i said " i got the badge there and the cross there" then i dug down 6 inches and exposed the skull. they where satisfied , we covered it back up, they gps,ed it and we went on to the child in the next spot. actually we had lunch on the boat first, nice boat i must say .
There is another grotto, with just some boards, some rope , some rib bones and a skull with a bullet hole in it. when the RCMP are notified, they determin if its old, then if it is, they hand it over to the heritage branch. the heritage branch then hands it's location over to the first nation, re guardless of the nationality. i should note, i spoke to a native elder who lived in the bgi when he was a kid,nice guy, he said there was a cave on the other side of the island, he said, he was told it was indians who died during the small pox. he said there is another one in _____ cove. this is the one every one knows about, its near badge guy. he said a title wave wiped it out, he went back reciently, said there is nothing left. i took the cops to it, it is still there, they just looked at the cave you can see from the water. they need to look at what they cant see, the sites are all hidden, its all there, its where the childs boot is.

back to the cops, the skull with the hole in it went missing in the last 20 years, that is a crime . i went to look, photo and mark the site,a couple years ago, the cops told me , that is not against the law. i saw the skull was gone, and the next cave [marker] was completly emptied, it had a box, what a loss.
. the jaw is still there, i have a good shot of the molers, if that helps. Plehbah.
i have no idea what johhny is talking about, i was 15 nearly 30 years ago. i did sail through the bgi this summer but this little park is remote and you need a good boat to safely get there.

 

[johnnyi]

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...the victim with the badge is a murder victim from the past and the cops are taking the murders seriously....

Here in the U.S., removing items from a crime scene is called "evidence tampering", "interfering with an investigation" and possibly "obstruction". If that is in fact a murder scene RCMP is not going to be very happy with you.

you have to understand, the crime scene is over 100 years old. to the cops, there is no crime within a time frame they can work with. They videoed me at the site, you can see nothing and there is no evidence of a burial, i said " i got the badge there and the cross there" then i dug down 6 inches and exposed the skull. they where satisfied , we covered it back up, they gps,ed it and we went on to the child in the next spot. actually we had lunch on the boat first, nice boat i must say .
There is another grotto, with just some boards, some rope , some rib bones and a skull with a bullet hole in it. when the RCMP are notified, they determin if its old, then if it is, they hand it over to the heritage branch. the heritage branch then hands it's location over to the first nation, re guardless of the nationality. i should note, i spoke to a native elder who lived in the bgi when he was a kid,nice guy, he said there was a cave on the other side of the island, he said, he was told it was indians who died during the small pox. he said there is another one in _____ cove. this is the one every one knows about, its near badge guy. he said a title wave wiped it out, he went back reciently, said there is nothing left. i took the cops to it, it is still there, they just looked at the cave you can see from the water. they need to look at what they cant see, the sites are all hidden, its all there, its where the childs boot is.

back to the cops, the skull with the hole in it went missing in the last 20 years, that is a crime . i went to look, photo and mark the site,a couple years ago, the cops told me , that is not against the law. i saw the skull was gone, and the next cave [marker] was completly emptied, it had a box, what a loss.
. the jaw is still there, i have a good shot of the molers, if that helps. Plehbah.
i have no idea what johhny is talking about, i was 15 nearly 30 years ago. i did sail through the bgi this summer but this little park is remote and you need a good boat to safely get there.

"i have no idea what johhny is talking about, i was 15 nearly 30 years ago. i did sail through the bgi this summer but this little park is remote and you need a good boat to safely get there. "

Ha!, Sorry Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood you. This is what I'm talking: "just for the record, I have not set foot on a island in the broken group since i was 15 years old". Again, maybe I misunderstood you. You said you were back at these spots 'with the cops" two years ago? Are you talking about different spots now than the ones you didn't set foot on since you were fifteen? I'm trying hard to follow this...

 

[hmmm]

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Johnny
I took the cops to spots closer to the lighthouse, as for the park, i have only heard story's about the sites in the park, the sound is huge and these sites are to far away from me. i would love to see some of the history in the park and I would really like to see the 12 men in a cave with full body armour that was there, but.
the cops told me where there is one worth looking at.

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=3d6e7d98-1ca9-4297-bf6d-75683da71650

if i was king George, i would have sent colonists to this sound when it was part of the British empire. its paradise.

 

[johnnyi]

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Johnny
I took the cops to spots closer to the lighthouse, as for the park, i have only heard story's about the sites in the park, the sound is huge and these sites are to far away from me. i would love to see some of the history in the park and I would really like to see the 12 men in a cave with full body armour that was there, but.
the cops told me where there is one worth looking at.

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=3d6e7d98-1ca9-4297-bf6d-75683da71650

if i was king George, i would have sent colonists to this sound when it was part of the British empire. its paradise.

Oh. Ok, I understand now (I think ) I'll delete my post about "imagination", "tender age", "a possible future of writing ahead of you", etc. etc.. You're on your own now brother.

 

[72cheyenne]

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Johnny
I took the cops to spots closer to the lighthouse, as for the park, i have only heard story's about the sites in the park, the sound is huge and these sites are to far away from me. i would love to see some of the history in the park and I would really like to see the 12 men in a cave with full body armour that was there, but.
the cops told me where there is one worth looking at.

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=3d6e7d98-1ca9-4297-bf6d-75683da71650

if i was king George, i would have sent colonists to this sound when it was part of the British empire. its paradise.

Hmmm, looking at your quote above highlighted in red would make most think that your site and the Pacific Rim National Park Reserve are a great distance apart, but the maps below (your map posted earlier in this thread, and one from this site http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/pacificrimnp.htm ) show that they are in very close proximity (20-30 miles) to one another. Why are you discounting that these bones in caves do not belong to the natives? I then question as why you would even post about it.

 

[72cheyenne]

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Ok Rando, that scared the hell out of me.

 

[72cheyenne]

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Ok Rando, that scared the hell out of me.

lol... What? don't like Teh Zombys?

hey, I'm a "Whites's Zombie"
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Just caught me off-guard, that's all!

 

[allan]

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How it all started ...............

 

[hmmm]

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72cheyenne your map is not accurate, if plehbah is serious about helping me , i will accept his help.
as for the 100 or so people scattered throughout the caves in the sound , if i where the natives, i would like to be sure that the caves have there people in them , as apposed to having a bunch of strangers buried in there traditional territory.

as for this thread , how many want me to delete it?