Gold being created in lab through advanced metallurgy

I read your post correctly Boatlode. I just wanted you to expand your explanation. There really are not that many synthetic elements made. What current science considers the true synthetic elements occur after Californium, 98, and natural Plutonium has been detected in nature, 94. Now as to manufacture of elements~ to my knowledge only elements in the actinium series have been produced in mass quantity and derivitatives. Even our fusion labs have great difficulty making new, well known, elements out of lighter non-radioactive materials and those products are not produced in mass quantity. I picked around a little bit to back up my thoughts so I'm no expert. I just know I felt uncomfortable with what I felt are half facts. Your statement prompted me in a good way ;)

*scratches head* This really is off topic; There is, to date, no such thing as Limitless Energy. Maybe higher rates of efficiency for energy production/extraction and use. Heck there may even be unknown sources of potential energy however, again, you don't get something from nothing. Transmutation/conversion of one thing to another unfortunately requires either an expenditure of energy or a loss of energy to achieve. Ie there is a cost of some sort. Nothing is free.

On topic : The process that this Blue Eagle project is using is not claiming to make something from nothing. They are in effect stating that they have found a way to transmute materials via some process called and "elemental blooming condition". Its an interesting concept if you couple it with the ongoing discussions concerning low temperature fusion.
A thought.
Do I think they are onto something with their kitchen microwaves.... I'll keep an open mind on that but at this time No. Beer bottles sown with "seed" ores. Yields of 200+ ounces per ton of waste material *the beer bottles and whatever else their putting in it*. I'm having a hard time with the fire assay part~ would someone who knows more about that process check out the video and tell me what I'm missing. Something seems wrong.
Now at the end of the video they are asking for funding for basically better equipment and facilities~ they are using "modified" kitchen microwave ovens to create this process. Gotta wonder about funding~ are they no essentially making gold? and at some pretty high "calculated" yields.....
I don't know.... looks like a rose smells like a fish.

Off topic again : As to patents they really do fall into two categories. Owner created patents and non-owner created patents. An owner created patent is a new patent that originates outside of a known process~ ie something novel or an improvement to an existing item by a creator outside of the process that makes said item. Non-owner created patents are patents created by an individual inside of a process and such patents as a result usually belong to the owner of the process whether they directed the creation of the new patent or not~ the person in this patent is considered to have received benefit of the original owner and thus their idea is not novel but an extension of the original owners process's.
In the first case, Owner created, patents and their proceeds belong to the originator. The patent is original and even if it relates to another patented item or process it was developed without assistance of another person or organization.
In the second case, non-owner, patents and there proceeds belong to the original owner of the process that the patent is being laid against. I my self, and many others if you read the fine print, sign away patenting ability when I am employed by a facility. Even if you don't sign a release for patents you may create as a result of your employment it is often considered that the employer, thru their employment of you and your services, by default of having shown you their process's also has right to any novel ideas you may patent as relates to their activities. ie you could never have invented the thing'a'ma'jig if you had never been exposed to the process's of your employer. Whether the employer wants to compensate you for your diligence is up to them.
 

In the second case, non-owner, patents and there proceeds belong to the original owner of the process that the patent is being laid against. I my self, and many others if you read the fine print, sign away patenting ability when I am employed by a facility. Even if you don't sign a release for patents you may create as a result of your employment it is often considered that the employer, thru their employment of you and your services, by default of having shown you their process's also has right to any novel ideas you may patent as relates to their activities. ie you could never have invented the thing'a'ma'jig if you had never been exposed to the process's of your employer. Whether the employer wants to compensate you for your diligence is up to them.

Good post DD. I believe it's commonly referred to as an employers "Shop Rights". And it greatly suppresses employees to "step up" when dealing within a huge company. Especially when you "step on" everyone's expertise and job title's trying to get attention for a new idea. Now that I think about it I'm going to turn my woodshop into a gold producing plant and take the old micro out of storage. Come on down Frankn I'll need ya after I blow it up a few times.
 

I read your post correctly Boatlode. I just wanted you to expand your explanation. There really are not that many synthetic elements made. What current science considers the true synthetic elements occur after Californium, 98, and natural Plutonium has been detected in nature, 94. Now as to manufacture of elements~ to my knowledge only elements in the actinium series have been produced in mass quantity and derivitatives. Even our fusion labs have great difficulty making new, well known, elements out of lighter non-radioactive materials and those products are not produced in mass quantity. I picked around a little bit to back up my thoughts so I'm no expert. I just know I felt uncomfortable with what I felt are half facts. Your statement prompted me in a good way ;)

Actually, Technetium (#43) and Promethium (#61) can be considered synthetic, in addition to the ones I already named. Quantity of manufacture was not part of my consideration, as I said, some of them only exist for milliseconds before they decay.
 

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