good condition 1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper good condition

[cwb426]

good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

found this was wondering if anybody knew what this is worth or if it could be sold willing to sell

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

I would like to ask what prominent points make this coin an "obvious" fake? I'm no coin expert and know little or nothing about spotting a fake. If someone can please tell me how this coin would be recognized as fake, simply from these pictures, I would very much appreciate it. Please be specific.

The lettering. It's crude and falls somewhere in between what you'd expect of a period counterfeit struck with hand cut dies, and the genuine issue, but it's easy to tell it's neither.

Here's another example, it's crude, but if you have enough experience with these early coins you can tell right away an authentic issue does not look like this after striking. Both this and the one above are so obvious to me it's like asking if something is black or white. I can't speak in all the lingo because I'm not any kind of expert, but I've been around enough to have a good idea, and had many conversations with an online friend who is an expert.

 

[cwb426]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

I would like to ask what prominent points make this coin an "obvious" fake? I'm no coin expert and know little or nothing about spotting a fake. If someone can please tell me how this coin would be recognized as fake, simply from these pictures, I would very much appreciate it. Please be specific.

The lettering. It's crude and falls somewhere in between what you'd expect of a period counterfeit struck with hand cut dies, and the genuine issue, but it's easy to tell it's neither.

Here's another example, it's crude, but if you have enough experience with these early coins you can tell right away an authentic issue does not look like this after striking. Both this and the one above are so obvious to me it's like asking if something is black or white. I can't speak in all the lingo because I'm not any kind of expert, but I've been around enough to have a good idea, and had many conversations with an online friend who is an expert.

that coin has nothing to do with the one i posted it is very worne and im sorry for letting my emotions get the best of me to al

 

[cwb426]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

I would like to ask what prominent points make this coin an "obvious" fake? I'm no coin expert and know little or nothing about spotting a fake. If someone can please tell me how this coin would be recognized as fake, simply from these pictures, I would very much appreciate it. Please be specific.

The lettering. It's crude and falls somewhere in between what you'd expect of a period counterfeit struck with hand cut dies, and the genuine issue, but it's easy to tell it's neither.

Here's another example, it's crude, but if you have enough experience with these early coins you can tell right away an authentic issue does not look like this after striking. Both this and the one above are so obvious to me it's like asking if something is black or white. I can't speak in all the lingo because I'm not any kind of expert, but I've been around enough to have a good idea, and had many conversations with an online friend who is an expert.

this is an authentic coin almost the same , mine is more worn

 

[cwb426]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

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this is an authentic coin almost the same , mine is more worn
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[Iron Patch]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

I would like to ask what prominent points make this coin an "obvious" fake? I'm no coin expert and know little or nothing about spotting a fake. If someone can please tell me how this coin would be recognized as fake, simply from these pictures, I would very much appreciate it. Please be specific.

The lettering. It's crude and falls somewhere in between what you'd expect of a period counterfeit struck with hand cut dies, and the genuine issue, but it's easy to tell it's neither.

Here's another example, it's crude, but if you have enough experience with these early coins you can tell right away an authentic issue does not look like this after striking. Both this and the one above are so obvious to me it's like asking if something is black or white. I can't speak in all the lingo because I'm not any kind of expert, but I've been around enough to have a good idea, and had many conversations with an online friend who is an expert.

that coin has nothing to do with the one i posted it is very worne and im sorry for letting my emotions get the best of me to al

The point is both coins have the same style of lettering that is not right for the real coin (s). There's nothing more that can be said because that's where the chances of it being real end.

 

[KRAZYHORSES]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

I would like to ask what prominent points make this coin an "obvious" fake? I'm no coin expert and know little or nothing about spotting a fake. If someone can please tell me how this coin would be recognized as fake, simply from these pictures, I would very much appreciate it. Please be specific.

The lettering. It's crude and falls somewhere in between what you'd expect of a period counterfeit struck with hand cut dies, and the genuine issue, but it's easy to tell it's neither.

Here's another example, it's crude, but if you have enough experience with these early coins you can tell right away an authentic issue does not look like this after striking. Both this and the one above are so obvious to me it's like asking if something is black or white. I can't speak in all the lingo because I'm not any kind of expert, but I've been around enough to have a good idea, and had many conversations with an online friend who is an expert.

that coin has nothing to do with the one i posted it is very worne and im sorry for letting my emotions get the best of me to al

The point is both coins have the same style of lettering that is not right for the real coin (s). There's nothing more that can be said because that's where the chances of it being real end.

the coin in the book is real

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

I would like to ask what prominent points make this coin an "obvious" fake? I'm no coin expert and know little or nothing about spotting a fake. If someone can please tell me how this coin would be recognized as fake, simply from these pictures, I would very much appreciate it. Please be specific.

The lettering. It's crude and falls somewhere in between what you'd expect of a period counterfeit struck with hand cut dies, and the genuine issue, but it's easy to tell it's neither.

Here's another example, it's crude, but if you have enough experience with these early coins you can tell right away an authentic issue does not look like this after striking. Both this and the one above are so obvious to me it's like asking if something is black or white. I can't speak in all the lingo because I'm not any kind of expert, but I've been around enough to have a good idea, and had many conversations with an online friend who is an expert.

that coin has nothing to do with the one i posted it is very worne and im sorry for letting my emotions get the best of me to al

The point is both coins have the same style of lettering that is not right for the real coin (s). There's nothing more that can be said because that's where the chances of it being real end.

the coin in the book is real

I would hope so, and the point is?

 

[cwb426]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

I would like to ask what prominent points make this coin an "obvious" fake? I'm no coin expert and know little or nothing about spotting a fake. If someone can please tell me how this coin would be recognized as fake, simply from these pictures, I would very much appreciate it. Please be specific.

The lettering. It's crude and falls somewhere in between what you'd expect of a period counterfeit struck with hand cut dies, and the genuine issue, but it's easy to tell it's neither.

Here's another example, it's crude, but if you have enough experience with these early coins you can tell right away an authentic issue does not look like this after striking. Both this and the one above are so obvious to me it's like asking if something is black or white. I can't speak in all the lingo because I'm not any kind of expert, but I've been around enough to have a good idea, and had many conversations with an online friend who is an expert.

that coin has nothing to do with the one i posted it is very worne and im sorry for letting my emotions get the best of me to al

The point is both coins have the same style of lettering that is not right for the real coin (s). There's nothing more that can be said because that's where the chances of it being real end.

the coin in the book is real

I would hope so, and the point is?

what

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

Kinda reminds me of my Continental Curency Find.
Except I didn't comment, just listened.

 

[cwb426]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

Kinda reminds me of my Continental Curency Find.
Except I didn't comment, just listened.

thanks im not a perfetional like mr america

 

[Erik in NJ]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

If Iron Patch says it's a copy - it's a copy. Let's move on.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

Kinda reminds me of my Continental Curency Find.
Except I didn't comment, just listened.

thanks im not a perfetional like mr america

Guess you're getting all emotional again. But that's ok, it's actually fairly common for people on here to believe what they want to believe. It doesn't matter to me.

 

[N.J.THer]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

CWB,
I would tend to believe IP but if you would like a second or third opinion then take it to a coin shop. If they think it is real then sell it to them and if not then just keep it as a nice conversation piece.
NJ

 

[Erik in NJ]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

LOL! Well IP I know one thing -- you are certainly not a "perfetional" Must have attended the same school as a Minelab customer service champion that PM'ed me last night calling me a "bonehaed" Heck, I resemble that remark

Kinda reminds me of my Continental Curency Find.
Except I didn't comment, just listened.

thanks im not a perfetional like mr america

Guess you're getting all emotional again. But that's ok, it's actually fairly common for people on here to believe what they want to believe. It doesn't matter to me.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

CWB,
I would tend to believe IP but if you would like a second or third opinion then take it to a coin shop. If they think it is real then sell it to them and if not then just keep it as a nice conversation piece.
NJ

I'll go $1,000 2-1 odds it's fake. Any takers? I'd be able to buy myself a real one with the $500 I'd make.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

LOL! Well IP I know one thing -- you are certainly not a "perfetional" Must have attended the same school as a Minelab customer service champion that PM'ed me last night calling me a "bonehaed" Heck, I resemble that remark

Kinda reminds me of my Continental Curency Find.
Except I didn't comment, just listened.

thanks im not a perfetional like mr america

Guess you're getting all emotional again. But that's ok, it's actually fairly common for people on here to believe what they want to believe. It doesn't matter to me.

It's Mr. America to you.

 

[Erik in NJ]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

OK since I work on a trading floor, let me put it this way, I'm long IP and I have size at 2:1....PM me if interested

I'll go $1,000 2-1 odds it's fake. Any takers? I'd be able to buy myself a real one with the $500 I'd make.

 

[KRAZYHORSES]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

OK since I work on a trading floor, let me put it this way, I'm long IP and I have size at 2:1....PM me if interested

I'll go $1,000 2-1 odds it's fake. Any takers? I'd be able to buy myself a real one with the $500 I'd make.

GOOD LUCK LOL you be better off looking for a money tree with your detector

 

[Erik in NJ]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

Well, afterall, he is wearing "red, white, and blue" Spandex, but then again he could be French (bleu, blanche, et rouge)!

It's Mr. America to you.

 

[KRAZYHORSES]

Re: good condition '1788 Massachusetts Colonial Copper' good condition

You asked for opinions, they were give to you with references. You can choose to accept or not but calling names is uncalled for and not allowed.

what kind of reference ??

There are photos and links to refer to. The OP can take the post as they see fit. Name calling isn't allowed nor does it have any place when one asks for an opinion.

when you ask for an opinion the world wide web is full of them chose one for or against they do not make your opinion the word of god it seems like there are the same negative opinions coming from the same people is that what this treasure net is about i would hope it would help with a definite answer not the same nay-sayers all mighty opinion which has been the normal ask mark if he wants his forum misrepresented

Sometimes the truth hurts....move on!

If you can not afford an attorney Krazyhorse will be appointed to defend your case.

if you need someone to stomp your find back into the ground just post it and I patch will be there for you