Gray Squirrels

[DizzyDigger]

Sounds like you have a God complex. You decide when it dies, even if it's only a few months old. And how many female squirrels do you kill that have babies waiting to be fed back in their nest? They will die
a slow and lingering death, thanks to you. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Your view on animals has been instilled within you by your environment and your relatives. My desire to show mercy and compassion to all animals was taught to me at a young age. I will always risk my neck to get a turtle out of the road and will always feed any stray animal that needs some help. Just my upbringing. Take care.

Tim, I would like to share with you a different way of looking at
this issue, and perhaps even, changing some of your perception
of people in general.

It's not religion, nor is it some kind of psychobabble, but it does
speak to our roles, as individuals, in this community of life on
Earth.

It's something that might interest you, but rather than hijack this thread,
I'd prefer to share it in a new thread.

p.s. I highlighted a section of your comment, above. ALL hunting seasons
are set at time when there are no pregnant animals. Hawks, fox, coyote,
owls, etc. kill them all year around, lest they starve.

 

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[augoldminer]

For fruit trees put a Squirrel Baffle around the trunk.

https://www.welcomewildlife.com/tree-baffles-to-baffle-squirrels/

or add a little ZAP.

 

[Duckshot]

Big difference between eating an animal that was raised for food and blasting away at some animal just trying to survive in this world. As I originally stated, try to co-exist with the creatures in this world.

Even ticks, mosquitos, and pelicans?

 

[Richard Guy]

download a Red Tailed Hawk screech and play it loud on your cellphone, ... they will run

 

[bowwinkles]

A friend passed on this tail about one of his dealings with mr. bushey tail. Seems he was coming out of his house to the deck and on to his pool where he had guests, carrying a bowl of nuts and fruit . An aggressive bushy tail came out of no where and grabbed one of his nuts and took a bite. He later said he was very lucky because the critter did not grab his banana. Seems that with this thing the virus has made some fruit hard to get. Cant never tell about mother nature

 

[Tpmetal]

For fruit trees put a Squirrel Baffle around the trunk.

https://www.welcomewildlife.com/tree-baffles-to-baffle-squirrels/

or add a little ZAP.

Had to run cattle fence up my bird feeder to teach a bear a lesson.....but tim thinks i just shot him out of spite.

 

[Tpmetal]

Sounds like you have a God complex. You decide when it dies, even if it's only a few months old. And how many female squirrels do you kill that have babies waiting to be fed back in their nest? They will die a slow and lingering death, thanks to you. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.



We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Your view on animals has been instilled within you by your environment and your relatives. My desire to show mercy and compassion to all animals was taught to me at a young age. I will always risk my neck to get a turtle out of the road and will always feed any stray animal that needs some help. Just my upbringing. Take care.

You should really understand inner workings of the farming practices that feed you while you are shaming us for how we live.....you buying your stuff from the store to "be compassionate" does more damage to the enviornment and animals then my way of life ever will. Even if you were full on vegan.....tons of critters die, get poisioned, or displaced as a result of the farmingnpractice you support because of your so called compassion......yes even the "organic ones" do it.

You are a hypocrit of the worst type...the god complex fits you better up on that high horse.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Sounds like you have a God complex. You decide when it dies, even if it's only a few months old. And how many female squirrels do you kill that have babies waiting to be fed back in their nest? They will die a slow and lingering death, thanks to you. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Your view on animals has been instilled within you by your environment and your relatives. My desire to show mercy and compassion to all animals was taught to me at a young age. I will always risk my neck to get a turtle out of the road and will always feed any stray animal that needs some help. Just my upbringing. Take care.

Very few animals in nature die a slow death,squirrel babies are and will be eaten by many birds they won,t live long enough to suffer a slow death.Squirrels eat baby birds,yep they do,alive too.Mother Nature ain,t a benign place where all is sweetness and light,more like an abattoir than any thing else as any one who has seen coyotes eat and kill a deer fawn can attest.That,s right,eat and kill.

 

[Duckshot]

I don't know where this fancy idea that a person can live without killing other living things came from.

But if you are only eating stuff that died of natural causes, then I am concerned for your state of mind. If you didn't kill your food yourself in honest fashion then you are merely paying somebody else to do your killing for you. Not exactly honest. Not exactly sophisticated either... Cowardly? Maybe.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Some say that plants are sentient too,I don,t ascribe to that belief,but some do.I really don,t care if anyone doesn,t believe in killing animals,I respect your belief,just give me the same respect.I,m certainly not going to hunt or kill those animals you cherish on your property.But I have and will continue to eat those animals I want to,under the appropriate game laws.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

Always someone judging.

This works very well for ground squirrels…not sure about grey squirrels. Maybe you could trap them and let them loose in certain areas where folks don’t mind all the wasted effort trying to grow vegetables in order to feed squirrels.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/catchmor-squirrelinator-trap

Garden vegetables don’t store for the winter like seeds and nuts do.

 

[Megalodon]

My pear tree provides a surplus for my family and neighbors to eat fresh and to freeze for baking. Here, the squirrels don't bother the pears until they are ripe. So I use the squirrels as ripeness indicators for end-of-season picking. As soon as I see a squirrel in my pear tree, it is time to pick every last pear. I use a fruit picking head attached to a telescoping fiberglass pole. The deer are less selective and take all the low hanging fruit before it is fully ripe. Since there is plenty, I don't care. So far, the squirrels leave my apple trees alone - maybe they don't like granny smith or gala apples? Our biggest problem with the apple trees is the deer rubs. They can girdle a tree in no time - and really eat the apples. So those are fenced. Crows take or pierce the occasional tomato, again produced in excess anyway.

 

[Oregon Viking]

My pear tree provides a surplus for my family and neighbors to eat fresh and to freeze for baking. Here, the squirrels don't bother the pears until they are ripe. So I use the squirrels as ripeness indicators for end-of-season picking. As soon as I see a squirrel in my pear tree, it is time to pick every last pear. I use a fruit picking head attached to a telescoping fiberglass pole. The deer are less selective and take all the low hanging fruit before it is fully ripe. Since there is plenty, I don't care. So far, the squirrels leave my apple trees alone - maybe they don't like granny smith or gala apples? Our biggest problem with the apple trees is the deer rubs. They can girdle a tree in no time - and really eat the apples. So those are fenced. Crows take or pierce the occasional tomato, again produced in excess anyway.

My tomatoes and peppers are in a greenhouse. The half acre orchard has enough for everyone. Garden is half an acre and fenced ...to discourage the deer. Squirrels? They don't like the striped terror!

 

[Megalodon]

Often, non-lethal alternatives are available. Just as often, they are not considered. And sometimes, gov't agencies kill wildlife apparently for the kicks or to help some developer who bought influence. My own county bypassed its own natural resources department - one with a raptor specialist, to request that the USDA Wildlife Services destroy some young ospreys in a nest that the community has enjoyed watching for generations.

https://chesapeakebaymagazine.com/cove-point-ospreys-euthanized-for-light-pole-maintenance/

On my last fossil hunt friday, I discovered a developer bulldozing land along the Chesapeake Bay within the protected critical area, including taking down trees used for bald eagle nesting and roosting. Technically, this is illegal - but there is no oversight or enforcement. I have been leaving messages to gov't officials expressing my disapproval of both the illegal acts and the gov't looking the other way.

Where do we draw a line ?

 

[FreeBirdTim]

My neighbor has a wonderful garden. He protects it with a fence and netting over it to keep the birds out. Not hard to do. No need to shoot anything.

Some people just like to kill to take out their frustrations in life. They're too poor to give their family a good life, working a dead end job, short (in more ways than one) and so on. Or they were abused as a child, either physically, emotionally or sexually.

The concept of mercy and compassion is taught to most at a young age. Some get it and some don't. Those that don't, prefer to abuse or kill defenseless animals. Just the way it is...

 

[FreeBirdTim]

Not exactly sophisticated either... Cowardly? Maybe.

Cowardly is shooting a defenseless animal. Want to act tough? Take on a grizzly bear with just a stick. You pull that off and I'll be impressed. Anything else is just a gutless act.

 

[Duckshot]

What make you think it is about acting?

Every family needs a provider. You know, to make life more comfortable by fetching food and picking the flies off other members. Traditionally this is the man's role, but there are some tough-ass women out there too I suppose.

I don't like killing but I like eating except when I am being eaten- then I like killing.



Pretty simple really.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Cowardly is shooting a defenseless animal. Want to act tough? Take on a grizzly bear with just a stick. You pull that off and I'll be impressed. Anything else is just a gutless act.

Since something has to die for you to live,cowardly is you calling someone cowardly for killing their own vittles while you eat things that have been killed by someone else.You really want to impress me,stop eating anything and die to support your belief that it,s wrong to kill to eat.That would truly be impressive and I,d salute you!

 

[Duckshot]

FreeBirdTim, friend,

Do you like steak? What's your favorite cut? The farm down the road has some steer and a bolt gun ready to go...

Don't worry, it'll be on the grill before you get here. Consider yourself invited.

 

[Megalodon]

My tomatoes and peppers are in a greenhouse. The half acre orchard has enough for everyone. Garden is half an acre and fenced ...to discourage the deer. Squirrels? They don't like the striped terror!

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Nice cat!

Here is mine about 30 minutes ago deciding what to do about a black rat snake. Fortunately (for the snake, that is), discretion overruled valor and my Buddy allowed me to take the black rat snake in a net to a safe place - a large brushpile. Uncoiled, the snake was close to 6' long.