Halfted Scraper Thread

[antmike915]

Anyone feel free to post some pictures if you have any. All of these are personal finds from Georgia, Alabama and Florida.

 

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[Relicgrubber]

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Here is a halted knife found by a plumber digging a sewer line near the St. John's River in Seminole County.

Sweet! Very rare assemblage for sure Nman!

 

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[fishstick]

A sharp arrow can impale an animal where you can't get it, such as up a tree. Whereas a blunt arrow shot with the directed force of a bow can kill the animal by breaking it's spine or other blunt force damage.

Ok, please show some true arrowhead blunts

 

[Relicgrubber]

A sharp arrow can impale an animal where you can't get it, such as up a tree. Whereas a blunt arrow shot with the directed force of a bow can kill the animal by breaking it's spine or other blunt force damage.

Blunts... This is the way they were used, as taught to me by my grandfather back in the 60's.

 

[antmike915]

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Here is a halted knife found by a plumber digging a sewer line near the St. John's River in Seminole County.

Wow (I have no other words 🙂)

 

[fishstick]

There's not been one true arrowhead blunt posted on this thread. Why is that if what some are saying they were used for? Anyone have pics?

 

[Lone Star]

There's not been one true arrowhead blunt posted on this thread. Why is that if what some are saying they were used for? Anyone have pics?

How about these?

 

[fishstick]

How about these?

Nice arrowheads but not a one of them are BLUNTS.

 

[CreekSide]

Nice arrowheads but not a one of them are BLUNTS.

I think he was pulling your leg with those

 

[fishstick]

I think he was pulling your leg with those

I sure hope so CS

 

[fishstick]

I'm not trying to be that guy but NOTHING supports that theory.

 

[antmike915]

I've never found a small arrowhead blunt personally. I've never been one to believe the blunt theory. My thoughts were they went for medium to large game; maybe some smaller (like bobcat size). I worked for animal control when I was younger and I've seen both cats; and especially dogs not get phased by stun guns and batons. It's hard for me too see a blunt rock doing much. Maybe animals like birds, squirrels or some other type of rodent but why go for that when there's more food for bigger kills.

 

[robertk]

Maybe animals like birds, squirrels or some other type of rodent but why go for that when there's more food for bigger kills.

Maybe the youngsters went for the small game? Just a thought.

 

[LandSeig]

In the book “Nine Years Among the Indians” Herman Lehmann describes using blunt arrows. "I was given a shield and placed about fifty yards. Four braves took bows and blunt arrows and began to shoot at me.” He later describes using blunt arrows and arrows with “spikes” on them. I don’t know if this is referring to bunted wooden shaftes only or blunted points. But they did use arrows without sharped points. This was referring to the Apache and later Comanche tribes btw. I listened to the audio book a little while ago and remember hearing references to blunted arrows.

 

[fishstick]

In the book “Nine Years Among the Indians” Herman Lehmann describes using blunt arrows. "I was given a shield and placed about fifty yards. Four braves took bows and blunt arrows and began to shoot at me.” He later describes using blunt arrows and arrows with “spikes” on them. I don’t know if this is referring to bunted wooden shaftes only or blunted points. But they did use arrows without sharped points. This was referring to the Apache and later Comanche tribes btw. I listened to the audio book a little while ago and remember hearing references to blunted arrows.

If that's the case, where are all of them at? Someone please show some!!! That time frame is nowhere near what's being shown here.

 

[CreekSide]

If that's the case, where are all of them at? Someone please show some!!! That time frame is nowhere near what's being shown here.

All the ones we find predate the actual arrowhead I’m sure they were used like a knife for something we may never know. I’ve found some scrapers on Mississippian sites and they are always ovals and small. I’ve found some oblong and thick but would of been used in hand.

 

[fishstick]

That's why I can't get on board with the whole stunner(blunt) thing.

 

[fyrffytr1]

I was told this is a clay. Found in southwest Georgia. I think I have some more hafted scrapers and maybe a blunt but will have to go through all 3 of my frames to look for them.

 

[unclemac]

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Here is a halted knife found by a plumber digging a sewer line near the St. John's River in Seminole County.

rare, outstanding, fantastic.

 

[unclemac]

In the book “Nine Years Among the Indians” Herman Lehmann describes using blunt arrows. "I was given a shield and placed about fifty yards. Four braves took bows and blunt arrows and began to shoot at me.” He later describes using blunt arrows and arrows with “spikes” on them. I don’t know if this is referring to bunted wooden shaftes only or blunted points. But they did use arrows without sharped points. This was referring to the Apache and later Comanche tribes btw. I listened to the audio book a little while ago and remember hearing references to blunted arrows.

perhaps in this case, the way he is described them being used, blunts meant something tied to the end (think tiny punching bag). In other words, arrows almost like counting coup.

 

[unclemac]

Blunts... This is the way they were used, as taught to me by my grandfather back in the 60's.

remember too.... back in the '60's we were told "bird points" were made for birds...