Hardstone Artifact(Bannerstone)

mogi · Dec 6, 2016

Hey friends - Wanted to post a hardstone out of my collection. Thanks for all the likes and kind comments on my previous posts. Have a blessed day!

Buckleberry · Dec 6, 2016

Speckled granite?

bill_wabo · Dec 6, 2016

We don't see them often, that's a beautiful butterfly. Wonder about the age of that artifact. Nice symetry also, wonder how they make it. Thanks mogi for showing.

The Grim Reaper · Dec 6, 2016

Buckleberry said:
Speckled granite?

Not sure if that is what it is, but it is a very odd material for a Bannerstone. Do you know what the material is Mogi?

mogi · Dec 6, 2016

crj1968 · Dec 6, 2016

Nice !

Triumph · Dec 6, 2016

Nice wish mine was complete like yours!!

quito · Dec 6, 2016

You sure are pulling out some impressive pieces.
Most authenticators appreciate having their name associated with fine genuine artifacts. It's good for their business i am sure you probably know.
I am also wondering why feel the need to keep them in obscurity.

arrow86 · Dec 6, 2016

So are all the artifacts you have been posting all purchased by you? Is there any you have found just curious as all of them have looked museum quality like they were made and never used until found. I'm sure you can see why people are skeptical with some of your recent posts. If they truly are authentic than they are amazing and thanks for the pics.

Igyjastabay · Dec 7, 2016

Pecking over polish.

fishstick · Dec 7, 2016

mogi said:
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Aahh paperwork...

mogi · Dec 7, 2016

arrow86 said:
So are all the artifacts you have been posting all purchased by you? Is there any you have found just curious as all of them have looked museum quality like they were made and never used until found. I'm sure you can see why people are skeptical with some of your recent posts. If they truly are authentic than they are amazing and thanks for the pics.

Thank you sir. My collection consists of personal finds,purchases and trades. I am very,very blessed to have many friends who are collectors,archaeologists and also authenticate as well. I put in many,many hours under the scope, and study consistently. There is not a single piece that is guaranteed 100% authentic. Simply for the reason that said person was not there and did not see it being made. But i examine all my pieces and then have them C.O.A'd sometimes by multiple experts. Even if someone examines a piece and is standing and speaking with collectors or authenticators who approved a piece - they will still make their own judgement. I do personally promise you one thing. Every piece that i have put up on this site has not only been scrutinized by myself - they ALL have at least 1 paper on them. I appreciate your comments and hope that we continue to correspond. Much respect, Mogi

Backwoodsbob · Dec 7, 2016

Well said Mogi!!!Just because someone say it's authentic only knows what they were taught. There more to a story some times. I cannot tell you if a indigenous person made a stone.
I can tell you if it was touched by the priest. Here you guys go and question this guy who has some very nice pieces.what difference does it make if he bought or found them. There are a lot of people that buy theirs. Although I haven't. Listen ,there are some of you out there think you are the authentication experts. You missed the mark on some pieces. You can call me what ever you want. If I had such a nice collection as he. I would be showing it too. IF I Showd My Collection I Could Imagine What You Would Be saying.Most Of You People On Here I'm Not Talking about. They know who they are. All I'm really saying is, there is and will all ways be something new out there. Have an open mind and knowledge will find its way in. Mogi thanks for sharing your very nice collection.

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The Grim Reaper · Dec 7, 2016

mogi said:
Thank you sir. My collection consists of personal finds,purchases and trades. I am very,very blessed to have many friends who are collectors,archaeologists and also authenticate as well. I put in many,many hours under the scope, and study consistently. There is not a single piece that is guaranteed 100% authentic. Simply for the reason that said person was not there and did not see it being made. But i examine all my pieces and then have them C.O.A'd sometimes by multiple experts. Even if someone examines a piece and is standing and speaking with collectors or authenticators who approved a piece - they will still make their own judgement. I do personally promise you one thing. Every piece that i have put up on this site has not only been scrutinized by myself - they ALL have at least 1 paper on them. I appreciate your comments and hope that we continue to correspond. Much respect, Mogi

Releasing the names of these friends who authenticate your pieces would go a long way in easing some of the doubts on your pieces. Just sayin'.

pickaway · Dec 7, 2016

it looks like a J & Dee coa john royster...

The Grim Reaper · Dec 7, 2016

pickaway said:
it looks like a J & Dee coa john royster...

That's where I have seen those before. I thought it looked familiar.

Makes sense now. lol

quito · Dec 7, 2016

"There is not a single piece that is guaranteed 100% authentic. Simply for the reason that said person was not there and did not see it being made."

Now if you are speaking about YOUR collection, that said volumes.

I can guarantee my artifacts even though I or any authenticator never saw them made.

pickaway · Dec 8, 2016

The Grim Reaper said:
That's where I have seen those before. I thought it looked familiar.

Makes sense now. lol

Sad how many blatant fakes are being sold with coa's, really is a racket that ruins this hobby.

mogi · Dec 8, 2016

pickaway said:
Sad how many blatant fakes are being sold with coa's, really is a racket that ruins this hobby.

This piece did not come with a C.O.A., so the authenticator had no money or special interest in the artifact. If you can not see the patina that is all over it,very,very evident conical drilling at its best,pecking and imperfect symmetry from the making of the artifact from imperfect tooling, then you definitely do not have to view my pieces. Just skip them and move on to the ones that you would like to view.

Buckleberry · Dec 8, 2016

pickaway said:
it looks like a J & Dee coa john royster...

From the site:

NOTE: RECENTLY I HAVE DISCOVERED ON A CERTAIN AUCTION SITE (Eb##) THAT THERE ARE SOME REPRODUCED COA'S THAT LOOK LIKE MY COA'S BUT HAVE BEEN ALTERED WITH A DIFFERENT ARTIFACT ON THEM. I KEEP COPIES OF ALL THE ARTIFACTS THAT I HAVE ISSUED COA'S ON SO IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT ABOUT THE CERTIFICATE, THEN PLEASE CONTACT ME WITH THE CERTIFICATE NUMBER AND DATE AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO VERIFY THE COA FOR YOU.

That's the ONLY reason I can think of why we're not allowed to see the whole 'Certificate of Opinion' for these, otherwise why bother.