History Channel - Oak Island mini series January 5, 2014

[Dave Rishar]

Good explaination of the realities of television filming, FindersKeepers.

Didn't Triton put divers in 10-X a few times?

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

all jeff's also. Ya think that I am willing to go out on a limb alone??

Where is my coffee to redeem yourself ??

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

all jeff's also. Ya think that I am willing to go out on a limb alone?? Where is my coffee to redeem yourself ??

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

carbon test on the wood supposedly found in the shaft - if it still exists

Jose

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

carbon test on the wood supposedly found in the shaft - if it still exists
ose

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

why are my posts doubling up?? Heck, how do you expect me to solve the oak island problem if I can't solve such a SIMPLE PROB S THIS. ??


jOSE

Jose

 

[HenryWaltonJonesJr]

Now that the show is over I'm feeling more that there was never anything there or there might have been something there, but it was removed long ago. Personally I think the most romantic theory has to do with Templars, the Grail or the Ark and codes left perhaps for a secret society, tasked to protect what was there, came in and moved it.

However, that sounds more like a plot for another National Treasure film. Any screenwriters here?

 

[jeff of pa]

why are my posts doubling up?? Heck, how do you expect me to solve the oak island problem if I can't solve such a SIMPLE PROB S THIS. ?? jOSE Jose

are you Double Clicking ?

are you Double Clicking ?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

are you Double Clicking ?

are you Double Clicking ?

LOL

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I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......

 

[coinbug]

I agree with you. It did look like it was planted BUT that may not be the case. What if they found the coin and the camers where off, the film crew would have them redo the find. OR they did put a lot of mud and stones on the bog and suppose they did find it in the mud and again they had to redo the find. What happen and how the film crew show it could be different. On a film set we have to do the shot many times before the film crew thinks they have it right. In most cases the film company gets it their way and we have no say. I can only guess what happen when they showed the coin. Was it planted Marty said no and thats where I am. I am sure when they jumped in the water and thought they hit it big, the film crew had a lot to do with this part to. Marty and Rick did a good job , its the way the film crew showed them that looks bad. I've been there and done that.

I think the coin was probably planted, likely by a local.

I love maritimers, but they're a crafty bunch, and it's certainly within the scope of their initiative to toss an old but low-value coin (and only one) into an area that they know is being targeted.

If the owners, or film crew, had planted it they'd have chosen something more valuable.

I was pretty excited about this series, because I've been fascinated by Oak Island since I was a kid, but it turned out to be rather lame, the labors of the brothers being nothing compared to earlier hunts.

 

[littleneckhalfshell]

I was on Oak Island in my teens on a family vacation back in the 60's (we went lots of interesting places)
I am just glad that someone is still looking to solve the thing.
On the thought of ground penetrating radar in the swamp, would it work if it was mounted in something like a fiberglass Jon boat? and winched along a grid pattern? Maybe do the same thing with one of those big metal detector coils they were using and cover the whole of the swamp.
I have seen people pull a big coil behind a four wheeler searching for meteorite, just mount the coil on the fiberglass Jon Boat.

 

[FinderKeeper]

I was on Oak Island in my teens on a family vacation back in the 60's (we went lots of interesting places) I am just glad that someone is still looking to solve the thing. On the thought of ground penetrating radar in the swamp, would it work if it was mounted in something like a fiberglass Jon boat? and winched along a grid pattern? Maybe do the same thing with one of those big metal detector coils they were using and cover the whole of the swamp. I have seen people pull a big coil behind a four wheeler searching for meteorite, just mount the coil on the fiberglass Jon Boat.

Good question, I Know Ground Radar works best on a hard flat surface, but could it work in a boat on water ? I do know the Radar will show every stone, metal object, and historical artifact in the frozen swamp now. A BIG metal detector would only show metals . Its possible there is no metals in the swamp but their could be a lot of historical artifacts there. If the stones they found turn out to be from a camp site then there should be many other camp sites there to. To do Smith Cove with Ground Radar you would have to drain it and make it flat and remove all the stones. No need to do Smith Cove with Radar. Just use the Radar at the edge of Smith Cove and go inland. If the tunnels are there ,the Ground Radar will show them. They can't be more than 20' to 30' deep close to shore and even if you have clay there, Radar will do the job. ONLY if you get the right person to do the job. There are other ways to locate the tunnels . The best way is with sound waves or a GPL will do the job to and their are more..

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hmm That reminds me of the time I went on a treasure hunt in a semi-dry sandy area where the RR crossed a small arroyo.

It seems that at the end of the revolution a rebel commandeered train was traveling between towns while collecting voluntary contributions to the cause - or you were simply shot .

When they found that the train was trapped, they told the soldiers to grab part for their services and bury it, but to leave their weapons on the train and go home. The theory was that they could claim that they had been conscripted and didn't believe in the revolution and had deserted.

Generally at this point of the rev it was acceptable, although before, you could be shot simply on how you treated your har long, a rebel, short a federal.

Since the federal highway paralleled the RR, they wouldn't work until it was dark - full moon.-

I quickly covered the area with my Gardner and the 3 ft coil so was satisfied that probably nothing was there and so told the them but they continued digging..

The hole was down to about 9 ft, hitting water. The bottom man would take a shovel full of sand, pass it up the next man who in turn passed it up to the top man.

As I was sitting there increasing my skeeter victory count, whenl. suddenly one of the men that were half hanging over the hole watching, yelled out "there's a silver coin in the shovel."

I immediately went into the excuse mode,wondering just how or why it hadn't been indicated by the Gardner, when Everone was ooohing and ahhhing, when one of the men grabbed his shirt pocket then grinned sheepishly. He had lost a couple of pesos that he had in this shirt pocket by leaning over the hole too far. There went my ideas of Rio.

So you see, it 'can' be done inadvertently..

Don Jose

 

[Leila]

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[Dave Rishar]

There's still the issue of the carbon dating of the coconut fibres however Dave. I tend to side with this evidence as it is more concrete in my mind than a deciphered inscription that may not be correct.

The fibers are hardly conclusive on their own.

As I've said in the past, I don't think that that particular stone ever existed; there is no physical evidence of it and its creation and placement make absolutely no sense at all. I merely pointed it out to those that do believe in it, and use it to support theories that it doesn't actually support. At the time that it was "discovered," everyone thought that pirates had buried treasure there, so the "evidence" being recovered at the time tended to support that.

 

[Dave Rishar]

I think the coin was probably planted, likely by a local.

That's certainly a possibility. If I were going to salt someone else's dig site to screw with them, that's probably what I'd use - something old, but very inexpensive and easily obtained. (Actually for about the same price you could get a Roman copper from Ebay and really mess with them!) But let's assume that this isn't the case, that the coin was not planted, and that it was a legitimate find. How does this affect existing theories, if at all?

Remember, Spanish coins from that era are not uncommon beach finds all along the east coast. I don't know for certain of any that have been found in Nova Scotia, but they've been found in Maine. I'd be very surprised if they haven't turned up east of there.

Does this coin mean something? It means that the Lagina brothers stand to make $3-4 if they sell it. Beyond that, maybe or maybe not. Hopefully they'll find something else in that area to add some context.

 

[jeff of pa]

That's certainly a possibility. If I were going to salt someone else's dig site to screw with them, that's probably what I'd use - something old, but very inexpensive and easily obtained. (Actually for about the same price you could get a Roman copper from Ebay and really mess with them!) But let's assume that this isn't the case, that the coin was not planted, and that it was a legitimate find. How does this affect existing theories, if at all? Remember, Spanish coins from that era are not uncommon beach finds all along the east coast. I don't know for certain of any that have been found in Nova Scotia, but they've been found in Maine. I'd be very surprised if they haven't turned up east of there. Does this coin mean something? It means that the Lagina brothers stand to make $3-4 if they sell it. Beyond that, maybe or maybe not. Hopefully they'll find something else in that area to add some context.

Spanish coins can show up in any state and have in some.
even in Land Locked states like PA.
if it's a real drop, it Means nothing other then someone lost or chucked it

 

[coinbug]

If I were going to salt someone else's dig site to screw with them, that's probably what I'd use - something old, but very inexpensive and easily obtained.

Exactly. Except that a local wouldn't necessarily mean to screw with the owners, their motive could be to increase interest in the show and the site, a side effect of which is increased business in the form of film crews, tourists, and more treasure hunting, all of which require local goods and services. It's a pretty big potential payoff - by regional standards -for a tiny investment.

 

[Sinbadthesailor]

Stone translation "errors"

Studying the Stone translation it seems some "poetic license" was used to arrive at the phrase with minute differences being taken as distinct letters to make some sense. The word "Million" for example could be "killick" which is an old Navy term for large anchor stones. This word can also mean (from Scots) the head of a pick-axe, so perhaps the pickaxe find its more significant than thought. A work in progress.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Jeff, remember our founder "George". He reportedly threw a dollar across the Potomac. The large coin, dollar size, was coined in Mexico. They were were referred to as a Dobie Dollar, or imply as a Dobies. So he threw a Dobie Dollar=----. Yes, they have been available sine the first explorers., say the 14 -1500's. Jose