how old is this stoneware figure?

[rockpassion]

Does someone know how old this stoneware figure is and who it is and what factory made it. The image depicts a king on a throne in armor with a coat of arms on his side, featuring a heraldic lion. And, I believe, the name Christoffeles is inscribed on the side. On his chest are royal medals decorations and a sun symbol.

 

[potsherd_creek]

Interesting piece, I do not know the age. I do not think that is a King, instead of a scepter that looks like a trumpet. The castle trumpeter would be a high ranking noble.
The best I can tell, that type of armor, 14th to 16th century. Salt glazing started in that time period. I am not saying that it is that old, likely not, that is what the maker is representing.
This front of this piece came from a mould so of coarse, more produced. The maker name, there is not any info that I can find, so that may make it rare. Hopefully someone can decipher the heraldic symbols on the breastplate. Great piece, hang on to it !

 

[rockpassion]

Interesting piece, I do not know the age. I do not think that is a King, instead of a scepter that looks like a trumpet. The castle trumpeter would be a high ranking noble.
The best I can tell, that type of armor, 14th to 16th century. Salt glazing started in that time period. I am not saying that it is that old, likely not, that is what the maker is representing.
This front of this piece came from a mould so of coarse, more produced. The maker name, there is not any info that I can find, so that may make it rare. Hopefully someone can decipher the heraldic symbols on the breastplate. Great piece, hang on to it !

Hi there, the reason i believe it is a king is the royal medals on the chest and the heraldic lion on a shield see photo's. and it is realy a spear he is holding see photo.

 

[potsherd_creek]

On todays pics, I do see the spearhead. Has this been in family or something you bought? A backstory would be good.

 

[rockpassion]

On todays pics, I do see the spearhead. Has this been in family or something you bought? A backstory would be good.

bought it from somebody who thought it was just an ornamental bookholder.

 

[Red-Coat]

bought it from somebody who thought it was just an ornamental bookholder.

Well, this is curious. It was advertised (same piece) on ‘Marktplaats’ as:

“Raeren stoneware, 16th century
RARE Raeren stoneware figurine depicting a king on a throne in armor, with a coat of arms on the side featuring a heraldic lion and the name…”

https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/antiek...rdewerk/m2309964390-raeren-steengoed-16e-eeuw

Raeren is a municipality in eastern Belgium, in the province of Liège, which was formerly part of Germany and ‘Raeren stoneware’ is a type of high-quality pottery produced there until the 17th century.

Could we please see a better and more complete picture of the signature on the side of the base? It doesn’t look like typical 16th Century lettering from what I can see so far.

 

[rockpassion]

Well, this is curious. It was advertised (same piece) on ‘Marktplaats’ as:

“Raeren stoneware, 16th century
RARE Raeren stoneware figurine depicting a king on a throne in armor, with a coat of arms on the side featuring a heraldic lion and the name…”

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https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/antiek...rdewerk/m2309964390-raeren-steengoed-16e-eeuw

Raeren is a municipality in eastern Belgium, in the province of Liège, which was formerly part of Germany and ‘Raeren stoneware’ is a type of high-quality pottery produced there until the 17th century.

Could we please see a better and more complete picture of the signature on the side of the base? It doesn’t look like typical 16th Century lettering from what I can see so far.

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yes indeed you are wright it was posted by me on marktplaats. but i hesitated because i could not find any info on the piece and thought it could be valueble so i decided not to sell. And the name on the piec is something like christoffele but can't photograph is because of the glare of the salt glaze.

 

[Red-Coat]

yes indeed you are wright it was posted by me on marktplaats. but i hesitated because i could not find any info on the piece and thought it could be valueble so i decided not to sell. And the name on the piec is something like christoffele but can't photograph is because of the glare of the salt glaze.

You hesitated because you couldn't find any info on the piece... but offered it for sale as 16th Century Raeren stoneware?

You can reduce the amount of glare by taking a picture in indirect light and shooting from an angle that doesn't reflect light back to the camera lens.

 

[rockpassion]

You hesitated because you couldn't find any info on the piece... but offered it for sale as 16th Century Raeren stoneware?

You can reduce the amount of glare by taking a picture in indirect light and shooting from an angle that doesn't reflect light back to the camera lens.

ok will try it tommorow i am going to sleep now it's late

 

[rockpassion]

You hesitated because you couldn't find any info on the piece... but offered it for sale as 16th Century Raeren stoneware?

You can reduce the amount of glare by taking a picture in indirect light and shooting from an angle that doesn't reflect light back to the camera lens.

Dear Red coat, how old do you think it is? here closeups of the name. can't read it.

 

[Red-Coat]

I can't read it either, but the letter forms (particularly the 'H') appear to be 'Early Modern English'. Those forms were certainly in use in Britain by the 1600s, but most usually in print rather than as hand-written inscriptions. Adoption in mainland Europe, and particularly in 'Germanic' areas came rather later and would be unusual for hand-written inscriptions before the first part of the 1800s. Except for inscriptions transcribed in Latin, which this doesn't appear to be.

 

[rockpassion]

I can't read it either, but the letter forms (particularly the 'H') appear to be 'Early Modern English'. Those forms were certainly in use in Britain by the 1600s, but most usually in print rather than as hand-written inscriptions. Adoption in mainland Europe, and particularly in 'Germanic' areas came rather later and would be unusual for hand-written inscriptions before the first part of the 1800s. Except for inscriptions transcribed in Latin, which this doesn't appear to be.

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so to be safe it is probably 19th century

 

[potsherd_creek]

At the left of the C, possible a makers mark ??

 

[rockpassion]

it turned out to be 20th century