How to dig Items with a SHOVEL !! whats your opinion

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let me know next time you are in western ny, would love to see it. I Just can't see digging coins at 6-10 inches with a scoop and not leaving a mess.

Couldnt pay me... no offense... been there done that.

Dunkirk NY.
 

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Couldnt pay me... no offense... been there done that.

Dunkirk NY.

got a place that only produces coins pre1907ish if you can handle the tyranny of ny for a few days lol
 

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I will tell you...

I have been digging all over this earth.

As far North as North Port Maine.

As far West as Concord CA.

And places Overseas.
 

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got a place that only produces coins pre1907ish if you can handle the tyranny of ny for a few days lol

Just hailed my jet pilot... be there within 2 hours ! ! !

Bah that would be cool. :)
 

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Wanna know where the "toughest" dirt that i can remember ? ? ?

Where i can safely say looking back... Not scoop... NOR shovel... NOR anything is worth a flying rats arse...

Laredo TX.

Arrggg that stuff was "dirt-crete"
 

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My scoop cuts through most of em... still no problem. heh

Probably slices down through the Bahia/Zoysia roots that are growing on top of a sandy soil mixture.

Though that target still rests below that Banyon tree root system.
 

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Ask Black Bart how digging in certain parts of the Keys is... like Big Pine. heh

Even my scoop would be deadened.
 

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Probably slices down through the Bahia/Zoysia roots that are growing on top of a sandy soil mixture.

Though that target still rests below that Banyon tree root system.

Pine... Oak everywhere here.

OAk primarily on every property.
 

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Wanna know where the "toughest" dirt that i can remember ? ? ?

Where i can safely say looking back... Not scoop... NOR shovel... NOR anything is worth a flying rats arse...

Laredo TX.

Arrggg that stuff was "dirt-crete"

There's hard dirt then there's the sticky clays.
Been on some sticky clay fields in England where no matter how hard one tried the dirt just stuck, no shaking, slapping, on the ground would dislodge it, fence post scraping was the option, or if coming across a larger rock to pound the shovel blade hard enough.
A scoop-yup one time-and you'd be done for good while trying to dig it all out then repeat-25 target morning........
 

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Just hailed my jet pilot... be there within 2 hours ! ! !

Bah that would be cool. :)

IF I was wealthy it wouldn't last long because of moves like that lol
 

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There's hard dirt then there's the sticky clays.
Been on some sticky clay fields in England where no matter how hard one tried the dirt just stuck, no shaking, slapping, on the ground would dislodge it, fence post scraping was the option, or if coming across a larger rock to pound the shovel blade hard enough.
A scoop-yup one time-and you'd be done for good while trying to dig it all out then repeat-25 target morning........

I am looking at a bottle neck as i type this on a corbel that was my first England eyeball find from a Castle property outside Newcastle.

1500's clay ball stopper neck.
 

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Guess i am just have to show ya... a knife through butter most of the time.

Roots or the clay?

No problem digging in clay-hot knife on a slab of butter-it's getting it off is the trick.
I have a blue clay even a 20 ton excavator lost digging, sure the teeth would go in, but the bucket edge-nope, the teeth edged in-then it would pull the excavator sideways toward the bucket.
 

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I am looking at a bottle neck as i type this on a corbel that was my first England eyeball find from a Castle property outside Newcastle.

1500's clay ball stopper neck.

You could of scooped this one easy enough.:)
The England eyeball finds-ah the memories

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Roots or the clay?

No problem digging in clay-hot knife on a slab of butter-it's getting it off is the trick.
I have a blue clay even a 20 ton excavator lost digging, sure the teeth would go in, but the bucket edge-nope, the teeth edged in-then it would pull the excavator sideways toward the bucket.

Roots.

I dont think i have had but a few clay experiences... it does work ya... and i can see where i would be dead in my tracks with it... but a shovel would STILL be as bad if not worse... especially one of those little shovels / trench shovels.

Now... "Muck"... is another story... and its lame... you gotta pull and it literally makes a slurp sound as its drawn out... its a workout and a real pain in the arse.

Look i own lets see...... 5 trench as well... never ... ever... use em.

As far as digging tools... i will show yall a picture of what i use... i do own several lesch's or whatever the heck they are called... but i have a few cool tools that i like better... will picture soon.
 

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Frost, anyone? }) I have many digging tools that are broken in half due to digging in the winter in frost.

It would be fun to get together for a hunt and see just how each type of retrieval expedites.
 

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Frost, anyone? }) I have many digging tools that are broken in half due to digging in the winter in frost.

It would be fun to get together for a hunt and see just how each type of retrieval expedites.

Now that i have not tried... even when I lived in an area (South Carolina) where the ground would have been frozen... i can say i have never tried scooping it.

But i did run custom alum version of what i use now when i was there... but not in the cold months... i really was a wuss when it came to being out in the cold.

My thin Florida blood wont take it.

Hated the few winters there... cold slush.
 

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Anytime a person digs a hole or disturbs the soil, every critter
that passes by is going to stop and check it out, especially if fresh
dirt is left exposed.

Coyotes, fox, skunk, 'coons and others will generally dig at the
spot of the fresh dirt, thinking there's chow underground or buried
there.
I usually explain this to property owners so they don't think it's me leaving holes uncovered.
 

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I find that I'm already too careful so as to not scratch that mint silver, so that sounds slow, Steve. Your success speaks for itself, however!
Not as slow as you might think. Really only comes into play with deep targets. But I'm usually digging by myself, so I don't have to race anybody. I just can't stand nicking a good coin or button.
 

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Agreed.
I'm an office boy, so when I get out I actually like all the bending and digging. Good exercise, like yard work.
 

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