I feel bad after my rant about my disappointment with the NOX 600....she came through

[DDLoopscreamer81]

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1st squeal the quarter, then I ran the pin point through the hole and out popped the 44 half! She is in excellent shape! The thing looks like it barely was touched

 

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[devldog]

Great looking coin. Congrat's, and I'm hoping that this is only the first of Many times that the Equinox comes through for you.

 

[TerryC]

I don't know how much time you have on the machine but most talk down their machine before getting to know it well. In today's INSTANT GRATIFICATION world, most consider the required 100 hours eternity! TTC

 

[Terry Soloman]

Congratulations!

 

[DDLoopscreamer81]

I have 8+ years Metal Detecting
All have been with a Minelab machine
1st- EXPLORER SE PRO
2nd-ETRAC
3rd-EQUINOX 600 (April 2018-present)

I have a few gold rings and several silver and old coins and silver coins. I just tired of rust tricking the machine

It’s 2019
Not 1980
It should recognize with near perfect accuracy specially when it’s between a ferrous-non ferrous! How do they remotely get mixed up

It’s like a Voltmeter reading 0 volts but there are really 480v running through it

🤔🤔🤔

We can say what planet millions of miles away is composed of yet we can’t say what lies merely inches under the soil

 

[chub]

Your 8 years detecting sound like you did the same year 8 times over.... after 8 years you probably should realise that there is no magic wand.

chub

 

[Jason in Enid]

I have 8+ years Metal Detecting
All have been with a Minelab machine
1st- EXPLORER SE PRO
2nd-ETRAC
3rd-EQUINOX 600 (April 2018-present)

I have a few gold rings and several silver and old coins and silver coins. I just tired of rust tricking the machine

It’s 2019
Not 1980
It should recognize with near perfect accuracy specially when it’s between a ferrous-non ferrous! How do they remotely get mixed up

It’s like a Voltmeter reading 0 volts but there are really 480v running through it

樂樂樂

We can say what planet millions of miles away is composed of yet we can’t say what lies merely inches under the soil

Just like the investment adverts say, "past performance is no indicative of future returns". All those detectors are excellent and all of them take a lot of time to master. The Equinox is no different. You need to spend 100+ hours of actively hunting, not passively detecting. Spend time analyzing every target. Listen to the size, the "shape" of the tone, the VDI response, the VDI stability, pinpoint shift, reported depth, pinpoint volume, and how ALL that changes as you circle the target from different directions.

If you aren't actively trying to learn the machine, you're doomed to spend the entire time digging like a day-1 newb.

 

[DiamondDan]

There are nearly foolproof ways to tell between iron falsing and not. After 8 years, you shouldn't need basic advice, but here goes:

Turn down your sensitivity to minimise iron falsing.
Turn down your gain, if applicable, to minimise iron falsing.
Rotate around the target and see if the signal changes.
Lift your coil and see if it's still strong.
Mark the exact spot (down to the size of a dime or so) where the signal is coming from. If, when you rotate 90 degrees the signal is no longer coming from that EXACT blade of grass or whatever, walk away. It's most likely not a coin. Of course, it could be a coin mixed with iron, but you'll have to dig it to find out. That's what the hobby is about: Using the info your machine gives you to make an educated guess on whether the target is worth digging or not.

Congrats on the half btw. It's a beauty!

 

[Toecutter]

Pffft I mean they should have machines with xray LCD display and sonar by now WTH....

 

[DDLoopscreamer81]

Well seriously...how the hell you see electrons spin but can see beneath 12” of dirt

 

[DDLoopscreamer81]

It is a no brainer, why is this so difficult

 

[DiamondDan]

It is a no brainer, why is this so difficult

Wow. So yeah, design a new detector that meets your outrageous criteria and make millions. It's a no-brainer, right? Therefore, SOMEONE with no brain could certainly make a technological breakthrough. We'll all be waiting, cash in hand.

 

[DDLoopscreamer81]

Lol

No the idiot that developed the technology to watch electrons spin or the one that can see a planet that is 1000’s of light years away

I’ll leave it to them thanks

Or the one that designed a missile that can take out a ICBM traveling 1000’s of mph

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Chub and ddloop, post by our rules, end the insults now.

 

[TerryC]

The metal detector basics has not really changed since WWII. The added BELLS AND WHISTLES has turned the thing into something that the lay person's mind will accept. Beyond the basic noise signal, the rest is only a GUESS by the machine. Most detectors are "tuned" to find coins (civilian models) so the "guess" is based on a signal from a target the size of a coin. Everything else is "extra". The older salts, myself included, cut our teeth on detectors that had no display. We learned it all by sound. After that, our experience takes us further "based on our best guess". Stop depending on that silly display and you will go farther! TTC

 

[vferrari]

The metal detector basics has not really changed since WWII. The added BELLS AND WHISTLES has turned the thing into something that the lay person's mind will accept. Beyond the basic noise signal, the rest is only a GUESS by the machine. Most detectors are "tuned" to find coins (civilian models) so the "guess" is based on a signal from a target the size of a coin. Everything else is "extra". The older salts, myself included, cut our teeth on detectors that had no display. We learned it all by sound. After that, our experience takes us further "based on our best guess". Stop depending on that silly display and you will go farther! TTC

Precisely, if the OP actually understood just a little about the underlying technology, probably would not be spouting outrageous comments like it should be a "no brainer".

First, as mentioned in the previous "rant" thread, spending quality time to actually "learn" the machine means that after a year, you should readily be able to tell the difference between iron falsing and true non-ferrous target signals. Numerous "tells" in the audio and the Equinox excels in the ways you can quickly (with basically a single button push) interrogate a suspected false or iffy target with alternate settings to give you a pretty good idea whether you are swinging over a falsing iron target or possible keeper. Those are all outlined throughout the painful rant thread: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/e...bsolutely-love-fooling-my-rusted-objects.html You are still going to dig a bent nail or two, but it should cut down on your iron junk to target ratio.

Regarding the technology, about the only thing that is guaranteed with VLF induction balance detectors, the prevailing technology used by Equinox and most consumer grade detectors is that you can definitely tell you have metal or ferrous containing rocks or dirt underneath the coil. Beyond that, the detector technology is simply guessing as to the type of target based on the response. Since there are so many variables (size, shape, composition, ground effects, nearby target interference) and many metals can and do emulate other metals (aluminum and gold for instance - the cruelest practical joke levied on detectorists), the number on the screen and sound in your ear is merely a high probability guess by the detector designer. The only way to be 100% sure is to dig it out. If it was easy, if it was straight forward, you better believe any of these cutting edge detector manufacturers would have cracked the code and that detector would be selling like hotcakes. It isn't because smart people are not engaged in detector design, it is because the problem is literally very hard to "nail" down.

Congrats on the silver if only because it is good rant prevention. Lol.

Hope you have been able to actually learn and apply those iron "tell" tips and they start paying off with less iron and more silver. HH.

 

[TerryC]

Precisely, if the OP actually understood just a little about the underlying technology, probably would not be spouting outrageous comments like it should be a "no brainer".

First, as mentioned in the previous "rant" thread, spending quality time to actually "learn" the machine means that after a year, you should readily be able to tell the difference between iron falsing and true non-ferrous target signals. Numerous "tells" in the audio and the Equinox excels in the ways you can quickly (with basically a single button push) interrogate a suspected false or iffy target with alternate settings to give you a pretty good idea whether you are swinging over a falsing iron target or possible keeper. Those are all outlined throughout the painful rant thread: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/e...bsolutely-love-fooling-my-rusted-objects.html You are still going to dig a bent nail or two, but it should cut down on your iron junk to target ratio.

Regarding the technology, about the only thing that is guaranteed with VLF induction balance detectors, the prevailing technology used by Equinox and most consumer grade detectors is that you can definitely tell you have metal or ferrous containing rocks or dirt underneath the coil. Beyond that, the detector technology is simply guessing as to the type of target based on the response. Since there are so many variables (size, shape, composition, ground effects, nearby target interference) and many metals can and do emulate other metals (aluminum and gold for instance - the cruelest practical joke levied on detectorists), the number on the screen and sound in your ear is merely a high probability guess by the detector designer. The only way to be 100% sure is to dig it out. If it was easy, if it was straight forward, you better believe any of these cutting edge detector manufacturers would have cracked the code and that detector would be selling like hotcakes. It isn't because smart people are not engaged in detector design, it is because the problem is literally very hard to "nail" down.

Congrats on the silver if only because it is good rant prevention. Lol.

Hope you have been able to actually learn and apply those iron "tell" tips and they start paying off with less iron and more silver. HH.

Thank you. Ask any detector salesperson if the detector target id is dead on and NONE will say yes. ALL will waffle with some sales "double speak". TTC

 

[DDLoopscreamer81]

Yeah and I was throwing the At Pro coil around and it didn’t make me dig rust nearly like the 609

 

[vferrari]

Yeah and I was throwing the At Pro coil around and it didn’t make me dig rust nearly like the 609

Just keepers, right? Great machine except in really thick iron, it has trouble separating targets plus it really did a number on my wrist, not well balanced weight wise.

That Walker is in beautiful shape.

 

[Trezurehunter]

Wow, that Walker is a blazer ! Hope you apologized to your 600 !