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DSC09922.webpnever found one like the point on the right. Its a new spot and my first whole head from there.
 

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Most books will just call it a stem point. Looks to be the same age as the other one.
 

Looks Adena to me
 

My first thought was adena like Gator said but most of the ones I find have more of a "beavertail" base. That base seems to taper in as it goes down to the bottom but could very well be a variation on an adena. In my opinion is either an adena or a type that falls into the category I often use " I have no idea".
 

I thought that too but It just doesn't look right when I put it by others I have. Some kind of snap base maybe. the other one I don't think is adena either. could be a reworked model maybe.
 

Looks to be an Archaic Stemmed Point which was the predecessor of the Adena Point. I believe these types came right before the transition to the Adena culture and led to the development of the classic stemmed Adena Points.

Check out this link and look at the Genesee and Snook Kill Points in the Archaic section.

http://www.oplin.org/point/
 

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I go along with Reaper on the ID, very nice finds:notworthy:
 

...ID on it....well, it's....really nice and large...great find outlaw...:)
 

I thought that too but It just doesn't look right when I put it by others I have. Some kind of snap base maybe. the other one I don't think is adena either. could be a reworked model maybe.
Take a photo of it with the others that you don't think it looks like so we can compare, please.
 

Take a photo of it with the others that you don't think it looks like so we can compare, please.



As suggested, some comparisons may help you figure this one out, but ''The Grim Reaper'' most likely is spot on.
 

JMO... The first one (on the left) looks like a "Burkett" and the second one (on the right) I believe is an "Adena". I'm looking in the new "13th edition Overstreet ID & Price Guide" under Northern Central (NC)... The first one I called a "Burkett" the book say's is "possibly part of the "Adena culture"... I'm sorry, as I look further in the new 13th Overstreet book, I had to edit this post because I'm not sure on the first one, it looks like a "Stone Square Stem" also which it might be. Just trying to help!
 

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The two on each end are Adena Points. The one in the middle is not. It's an Archaic Stemmed Point and the names vary from area to area.

Are you saying there is only one base configuration to the Adena type?
 

JMO, I agree with Archaic Stemmed Point as the general type, and I am too uninformed on typeology of your area to narrow down further. If found here in my area of Maryland I would generally classify it as a "constricting stem point", probably of the "Piney Island" type. Later than most of the straight stemmed points, and earlier than the Adena's and the even pointier stemmed types (Poplar Island/Piscataway/Chesapeake Diamond's, and Rossvilles). Nice point whatever the current name(s).
 

There are three basic types of Adena Points. You have the classic Beavertail Adena, the Cresap which is really early Adena, and the Robbins Points. All three have a very distinctive basal style.

Dickson and Waubesa are not Adena, they are Hopewell. I also don't agree with the Adena Narrow Stem or the Adena Vanishing Stem. In my experience I find these types on Archaic sites.

Identifying Flint Artifacts/ Adena Points

Identifying Flint Artifacts/ Cresap Points

Identifying Flint Artifacts/ Robbins Points
 

Nice looking points..






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