Identifing Points By Their Characteristic Flaking. (Lovel Constricted)

[old digger]

Here is an example of charatistic flaking in identifing a point that has lost part of it's base. This is a Lovell Constricted point that I have. I was fortunate to meet, and show it to Wilfred Husted. He oversaw the digs in the Big Horn Canyon before it was flooded, and was doing the digs for the Smithsonion.
He conferred that with colateral flaking and the flaking on the one side along the upper cutting edge (between arrows) makes it a high probablity that it is a Lovell Constricted.
The point material appears to be quality KRF. The orange colored side was exposed for some time to give it that hue.

 

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[quito]

Nice Paleo!!! Sweet material too!

 

[rock]

Nice find and great flaking. So whats the difference between (flaking) archaic and paleo. The flaking looks allot like the type I find here in Ga. I can tell the difference between archaic and woodland. Im not sure if I have ever found any mississippian.

 

[eastTNJoe]

Rock and Old Digger, I would like to learn more about distinguishing between the different eras based on flaking. What guide or reference would you recommend for doing this? I only have a few dozen points but would love to categorize/classify them...it would be a fun way to extend the hobby on those days when I can't go hunting...or when I get back empty-handed.

 

[rock]

Mine is from picking them up and then finding out what type of points they are. I then look them up in my book and get the age of them. There are books you can buy that have nice pics in them that show detailed flaking on artifacts. I cant post them here cause I dont want to jack his thread. Ill let digger respond.

 

[old digger]

First off, I don't know it all and am still learning. My best advice is to get as much information as you can get.
Flaking is flaking, but if you want to learn as much about your area,read, ask questions, and ingest as much information about the points and their characteristics of manufacture. Therefore you will have a better chance of identifying those certain points. Never rely on just one opinion.
Also remember that there may be points that where manufactured with the same characteristics, but with different names, and are from different localities (states).
Learning and gaining ''knowledge'' takes time.

 

[Tnmountains]

Looks oblique transverse is that the same thing maybe? > I just saw your last reply.

 

[old digger]

Looks oblique transverse is that the same thing maybe? > I just saw your last reply.

You are right! I am wrong in it being collateraly flaked. It is oblique flaked.

My error! Thanks for correcting me.

 

[rock]

So flaking from side to side all the way across. I know the archaic flaking sometimes doesnt go all the way across in every flake removed. Long strikes and the woodland is usually scattered strikes.

 

[old digger]

The point shown above has those flakings meet, but at an angle. There are some points that have the same type of flaking, but their characteristic is to not angle but meet straight across.

 

[rock]

I havent found a point that would be considered Paleo so I dont have anything to compare mine to. YET, I can always hope.

 

[old digger]

Seems rather pathethic with all the so called brilliant artifact ''know-it-all's'' that lurk this site, that when you post a serious learning/teaching Thread, it is ignored. Oh, well, what is the point in posting in the first place!

Sai wani lokoci!

 

[Get-the-point]

That point is a nice example even though the base is clipped. I love how the picture of the Lovell point and you piece almost match in flaking. The oblique transverse flaking and the tip where you have it marked are awesome indicators to the type!........Nice!!

 

[rock]

Seems rather pathethic with all the so called brilliant artifact ''know-it-all's'' that lurk this site, that when you post a serious learning/teaching Thread, it is ignored. Oh, well, what is the point in posting in the first place!

Sai wani lokoci!

Post a geofact next time and see what you get for responses.
I found it to be very interesting myself.

 

[Rege-PA]

Reminds me of "Elk River" points here in the east. Diagnostic flaking is the key to put points in the right time frame. Fakes often have the shape but the flaking is the truth.

 

[quito]

Here is a South Dakota KRF example of the type from my collection.

 

[Rege-PA]

Nice example, a local find?

 

[coteau]

Thanks, that's a nice artifact and good info and illustration...

I recently got to handle a very nice point that I believe was a Lovell or some other late Paleo artifact. It was found in Southwest ND or Northwest SD. It had the nicest parallel oblique flaking like an Allen but had the outline of a Lovell or Pryor Stemmed. I wish I had a pic of it.

I think a lot of people mistake Duncan/Mckean for Pryor stemmed/Lovell..

Here's a picture of one at the local museum (I assume the typology is correct but it could be wrong).

 

[Sheperdess]

So what does this one quailfy as?

 

[Rege-PA]

I can see how they could be confused. Seems lovell expands slightly more at base than Duncan.