jesuit #7

[dsty]

Thanks casca, I know that you have traveled many trails some on level ground some up the face of a bluff, I've looked west from Alamogordo and it will just make you tired just looking at the face of those bluffs. I really enjoy your post and photos.

 

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[Pinwheel]

Hey Dog. Here is a photo of a prospexican's bell monument. Many thanks to prospexican for allowing us to borrow his pic. I Wanted to copy the pic here unmarked so we could see what is there before i put some lines on it.

 

[Pinwheel]

There are a lot of symbols on this monument however it is only the 7's i would like to look at. As you know we all know that a 7 is a campsite symbol. However you know that i believe that is not the only way it is used when found in the field. I know that the campsite symbol is right but incomplete. When one reads that on the 7th day he rested. Rest is the symbol for campsite, but that interpretation falls short. When the passage is read in its entirety, God had just created the heavens and the earth in 6 days. After his work was finished he rested on the 7th day. I believe that the 7 can and is used to mark a cache site. After the work is finished. Either a tunnel/cave/mine/vault the 7 is used in the "yard" to point out important information. Desty has said that both legs of the 7 can point and i think even the "V" point of the 7 can point as well.

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I marked some lines coming from the 7's One off of the long leg, one off of the short leg, and one from the "V" part. one line hits the right lobe of the hart. The other line does not seem to hit anything. But coming off of the "V" point it hits the turtle shell that is upside down. The long leg of the other 7 strikes down the middle of the hart. The Short leg of that 7 strikes the smaller turtle that is upright. But The "V" part of that 7 does not seem to strike anything. I have read where Dsty said the way to find the vault is to go from big to little. Use the short leg of the 7.
In his thread" is it a bell", Prospexican says there is a cave below those rocks to the right. I do not know exactly where that cave is, maybe prospexican will tell us if one of those lines is on the bearing of enternece of that cave. When i extended the line in what I would say is in reverse it passes through the bear head.


I am just guessing at all this and would appreciate all the insight i can get. I think when we work together we will get this figured out. Desty, hope you do not mind me quoting what you have written in other threads.

 

[bob632]

What the F is your problem? I have never been rude to you (unless you are one of the many douches that use a bunch of aliases).

SO BOB632, for being rude and insulting, you have won the:

DOUCHE OF THE DAY AWARD!
CONGRATULATIONS!

Best - Mike

I see t-nets rules only apply to the people they want them to apply to......hmmm.

Well you should know what one is mike, you look at one each day don't you.

I don't care if they remove my account, if they would just put a "remove your account" button someplace I would do it for them.

And as for the rest of you......if you ever want to move past scribbling on pictures with electronic crayons while pretending you are going to find something.......

oh never mind, by all means carry on.

Bye y'all

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

yes,thanks prospexican for posting your photos. and thanks pinwheel for your mark up and thoughts on the subject.i guess iam the only one that doesnt think of a camp site when I see a # 7.and that's just because 100% of all the 7's I have found are no where near, where I would camp. and the 7's that I have found,sure seem to be at cache,vault,mine sites.no camps yet for me.so I go by what I find in the field where I hunt.but I like reading about the camp 7's.i just haven't found the camp seven yet.i think its just another ploy by the ego,greedy ,sneaky treasure hunters trying to throw people off the true treasure trail,or they don't really know.atleast in my area,its doesnt hold true.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

I hunt different,i don't use the bible,i don't use the compass to guide me,i use the rocks and a sixth sense,the 3rd eye if you will,lol.sure I use the compass to see how the stone is pointing,out of curiosity.but not to guide me.no wonder I don't find anything. but I am digging a site now, that I used stone and wood signs to guide me there. I shall see what shows up.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

I don't bye into the rule book stuff either.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

and I do belive the sites are mostly all laid out different,depending on how may people worked it.and the different people that worked it over time. lets say I find a hidden mine full of gold bars. i put one in my pack.I come out of the opening,hide the opening. then i twist all the pointers on my way out 190degs. he,he,he. now i have my system,of getting back there.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

the owls,the ducks,the #7 are already made for me,the works all done, all i had to do was put a new twist on things,lol.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

then come on here and say,yep,you see a duck,reverse direction,get away from it,lol. yep that #7 is just a camp site,you may as well move on,lol.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

this is all coming from a greenhorn,that has only done this part time for a couple of years.but it works for me.just food for thought. i see treasure talk can be like religion and political talk,the thoughts can get heated,but that's cool,it shows the passion a person can have on the subject.

 

[kanabite]

I see t-nets rules only apply to the people they want them to apply to......hmmm.

Well you should know what one is mike, you look at one each day don't you.

I don't care if they remove my account, if they would just put a "remove your account" button someplace I would do it for them.

And as for the rest of you......if you ever want to move past scribbling on pictures with electronic crayons while pretending you are going to find something.......

oh never mind, by all means carry on.

Bye y'all

hi Bob632 , heck I have missed you amigo !
hope you and yours are doing good.

I think I figured it out , this big forum is ran like a business , you know not so much about treasurehunting but more about charter memberships and adds and stuff. well good for them .free enterprise at work and there is nothing wrong with that , but your right I think I even got my first warning today after like 10 years on the net , and I was being as nice as humanly possible I thought , o well , so don't feel picked on we only have the handful of posts on here so we must be the newbies . lol just wanted to say hey , drop me an email or something so I can see how you've been man. take care amigo .///bob

 

[gollum]

Hey Kanabite,

Don't be so quick to let Bob off the hook and blame TNet. I only just became a Charter Member a few weeks ago, but have been a member for many years. When there is a stewup between two members, I think what the moderators do is look at all the posts leading up to the argument. Look at the history of the members, then make their determinations.

Here was your buddy's post to me:

Don't bother , I've seen it and I'm not impressed, even rambler can find funny shaped rocks.

If you want to impress me show me the inscription that is found on some rather large silver disks associated with a real cache site, it doesn't need to be a picture a copy of a hand drawing will be fine. < ask around i'm sure somebody has heard of them.

if you can't produce that then you can take your horse rock and go ride it........you have nothing that is of any interest to me.

Now, previous to that, I had been nothing but nice and accommodating to him. There was ABSOLUTELY no reason for him to have been as rude and insulting to me as he was. I WILL NEVER back off from anyone treating me like that. If this were a bar, it would have ended in a VERY different manner. As this is the internet, and anybody can be a tough guy or insulting, words are my only defense.

I think it was easily clear to anyone watching that bob came out of left field with his attitude. I only responded in like fashion. If bob lives anywhere near Los Angeles, I would gladly invite him to be rude and insulting to my face. You and I have always gotten along quite well. You have never shown me attitude like that, and likewise, I have never been rude or insulting to you. I am VERY easy to get along with. I treat everybody with respect until they give me a reason not to.

Take Care - Mike

 

[kanabite]

mike, no I really have just lost contact with the other bob , as far as what I said about t net my frustration is not at you . there is a member here who is downright rude to at least some, if not everyone in about every thread he posts in . it has gotten so bad I almost can't stand to read the treasure signs category anymore . and I am not the only one , and this is not the first forum it has happened in . I guess I don't have to read his stuff , but give me a break. i'm sorry you and bob 632 have had a falling out , he really is one of the more knowledgeable folks I have met in this game . I think the mood was set in this category long before you two had this unfortunate exchange . somebody needs to mend this train wreck before everybody that is worth two licks just says the hell with t net . I have seen what happens when the good folks leave a forum . cause the only thing that makes a treasure hunting forum worth a dam in the first place is the people who post in it .
always good to here from you, take care .///bob

 

[gollum]

Well,

All I can say for the nemesis is that there have always been a few people that post under about five or six aliases. They never give their names and when you ask them a simple question, they assault you for it. That is why I have such a short fuse when someone does that. We have even caught them having conversations with themselves. LOL

Take Care - Mike

 

[tabu]

For all of you out there---


O vos qui cum iesu itis, ne iatis cum iesuitis! (Lat.)

"Walk with Jesus, not with the Jesuits!"

A Dominican friar's admonition to a young religious aspirant.



tabu

 

[Springfield]

...somebody needs to mend this train wreck before everybody that is worth two licks just says the hell with t net . I have seen what happens when the good folks leave a forum . cause the only thing that makes a treasure hunting forum worth a dam in the first place is the people who post in it .
always good to here from you, take care .///bob

This site is basically a cat/mouse fishing expedition for curious folks. Sure, people post a lot of stuff here - pictures, ideas, links, opinions, arguments, etc. Thousands of posts, and pretty much all previously plowed ground to begin with. The 'debates' are just like political encounters, each side trying to prove something with carefully culled 'evidence' irrelevant to the truth of the original subject. Once in a while someone will test the waters with a new idea, but nobody is going to post anything of proprietary value here - come on, get serious - why would they? The value here lies in establishing a new offsite relationship with a poster. I've made maybe four since the mid-90's with people who have something to add to the mysteries - pretty good results in my book. Plus, I've been able to glean a lot of interesting history with various links on various topics. Mike's Jesuit history info, for example. No use getting too excited about what others say here, especially about you.

 

[kanabite]

This site is basically a cat/mouse fishing expedition for curious folks. Sure, people post a lot of stuff here - pictures, ideas, links, opinions, arguments, etc. Thousands of posts, and pretty much all previously plowed ground to begin with. The 'debates' are just like political encounters, each side trying to prove something with carefully culled 'evidence' irrelevant to the truth of the original subject. Once in a while someone will test the waters with a new idea, but nobody is going to post anything of proprietary value here - come on, get serious - why would they? The value here lies in establishing a new offsite relationship with a poster. I've made maybe four since the mid-90's with people who have something to add to the mysteries - pretty good results in my book. Plus, I've been able to glean a lot of interesting history with various links on various topics. Mike's Jesuit history info, for example. No use getting too excited about what others say here, especially about you.

maybe your right Steve , I too have been able to meet a select few that I would actually call friends on these forums . and I will agree with you that there is some very interesting history brought forth , mainly in the treasure legends topics . I'm not saying there cant be debate , but after a while the propaganda , and" baby high school puppy ****" that goes on in hear , begins to lose whatever entertainment value it might have once held .oh well I guess I don't have to read it . please carry on . hope you are doing well .take care . maybe one of these days ill go back to the little forum instead and delete every thing in there that contains all the conspiracy nonsense that has been allowed to go unchecked for far too long , those kind of things are another forum killer .///bob

 

[kanabite]

hey Steve ,
please disregard what I said about going to the little forum . I appear to have more problems than just too many conspiracy theories being posted on a treasure hunting forum . my phone says the security certificate is not to be trusted . both computers freak out on any attempt to log in so for the few folks that may know what I am talking about I would not trust the format .I guess that's what you get when you don't pay the rent for a while . always about somebody getting paid it seems .
I hope that's what it is , for a while there after the trouble I could still get in the backdoor , but now it seems I have been banned by my own creation .
what a trip .
reminds me of what Rog use to say about somebody keeping tabs on the goings on .
maybe a little public post on the web will clear up the mess . who knows . this is not an advertisement BTW , just a warning to some folks I care about .////bob

 

[rangler]

This is KGC not Spanish.....thanks for making that clear Steve, so that newbies get the true picture of the number 7 - the confusion comes from the fact that the number 7 ON PAPER, REPEAT ON PAPER means Gold, we all learn that but when the number 7 in on stone IT MEANS CAMP- SOME OF US STILL NEED TO LEARN THAT,.the KGC confuse the issue by using the number seven for gold, confusing those that dont have a clear understanding to begin with.The KGC used the Spanish code but make up their own meaning to the same clues, to keep other from their goods.
Frankly I think the KGC guys messed this up themselves,and confused paper 7's with stone 7's...never knowing the difference themselves.

just to keep our focus here is a pic of paper 7 of the Jesuit Era....