KG Copper Pics

[West Jersey Detecting]

I was able to squeeze a few pics out of my broken camera so I could post some decent pics of the counterfeit 1773 KG copper that I found a few weekends back. It was a struggle, but I got it done.

Enjoy the pics!

 

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[Don in SJ]

Neil, it cleaned up nicely, but still a counterfeit I will see if I can figure out if it is a common type or something unusual, I think more likely a common one since it is very close to an Regal in many respects, those usually are the more common ones.

Again, I have only seen one identifiable ground found posted from the USA that has been a regal KGIII copper, out of a couple hundred looked at.

Don

 

[sparkymaster]

Hey, the pictures came out. Nice coin!

 

[civilman1]

Sweet Neil......Now that's Saving History......Thank's!!!

 

[{Sentinel}]

Nice one buddy!

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Neil, it cleaned up nicely, but still a counterfeit I will see if I can figure out if it is a common type or something unusual, I think more likely a common one since it is very close to an Regal in many respects, those usually are the more common ones.

Again, I have only seen one identifiable ground found posted from the USA that has been a regal KGIII copper, out of a couple hundred looked at.

Don

Don,

From what I read, there were very few genuine regal coppers in circulation in America. Most were atually minted in the mid 1780's, when there was a shortage of coins. Many of the merchants knew that the coins were counterfeit but just looked the other way and accepted them as legal tender due to the shortage. I am also curious if the uneven wear on this coin was intentional wear. Clever counterfeiters often wore down the coins to make them appear well circulated. All of my other dug coins have fairly even wear across the entire surface.

 

[hogge]

From my aspect, what I've read about, seen on this site, and seen from my own finds, most counterfeits were struck on shallow dies to make them look as though they were well circulated. This one appears well struck, with very even wear. Do you have a weight? Does it fall into the Regal weight range? It also appears to be copper and not alloy. (Although this could be from cleaning or olive oil or vaseline which I use) Mostly I DUNNO! LOL! Mostly just wanted to write a post and babble on a little. Really well preserved. AWESOME FIND whatever the outcome. CONGRATS Hogge

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

From my aspect, what I've read about, seen on this site, and seen from my own finds, most counterfeits were struck on shallow dies to make them look as though they were well circulated. This one appears well struck, with very even wear. Do you have a weight? Does it fall into the Regal weight range? It also appears to be copper and not alloy. (Although this could be from cleaning or olive oil or vaseline which I use) Mostly I DUNNO! LOL! Really well preserved. AWESOME FIND whatever the outcome. CONGRATS Hogge

Hogge,

No backward letters on this one The coin weighs in at 117 grains, well below the minimum acceptable 140 grains of a genuine Regal. I have not measured the diameter, but it appears to be normal. I have to believe it is copper and not an alloy.

 

[Iron Patch]

Neil, it cleaned up nicely, but still a counterfeit I will see if I can figure out if it is a common type or something unusual, I think more likely a common one since it is very close to an Regal in many respects, those usually are the more common ones.

Again, I have only seen one identifiable ground found posted from the USA that has been a regal KGIII copper, out of a couple hundred looked at.

Don

I've never seen a non regal get any type of inflated price when that close in design.

 

[silverfreak]

That is an awesome find Neil

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

Wow Neil this Georgie looks mighty fine my man. I wish mine were equally detailed but it seems most of mine were lightly struck, environmentally damaged and well circulated. 1,2,3 strike your out. I'm still happy with them though. 8)
Chris

 

[Nana40]

Just WoW, Neil! 8) And those pictures look great!

Nana

 

[Derek752]

It came out GREAT Neil , the detail is fantastic and such a clear date , I am envious

Keep swingin that coil over the ancient coppas

D.

 

[CRUSADER]

Neil, it cleaned up nicely, but still a counterfeit I will see if I can figure out if it is a common type or something unusual, I think more likely a common one since it is very close to an Regal in many respects, those usually are the more common ones.

Again, I have only seen one identifiable ground found posted from the USA that has been a regal KGIII copper, out of a couple hundred looked at.

Don

I've never seen a non regal get any type of inflated price when that close in design.

As you say, not 'funky' enough. But still a very nice conditioned fake, better than any I have found

 

[Iron Patch]

Neil, it cleaned up nicely, but still a counterfeit I will see if I can figure out if it is a common type or something unusual, I think more likely a common one since it is very close to an Regal in many respects, those usually are the more common ones.

Again, I have only seen one identifiable ground found posted from the USA that has been a regal KGIII copper, out of a couple hundred looked at.

Don

I've never seen a non regal get any type of inflated price when that close in design.

As you say, not 'funky' enough. But still a very nice conditioned fake, better than any I have found

Yep, love the funky. I dug one of my best ones last year, not real funky but a nice coin.

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

As you say, not 'funky' enough. But still a very nice conditioned fake, better than any I have found

I am not sure if fake is a fair description of the coin. Fake has the inference of a souvenir purchased at a museum shop. Counterfeit coppers are an important part of our history. They tell a story of a time when there simply wasn't enough coinage around, so some enterprising people did what they had to to save the economy from total failure. (Maybe we need some enterprising people to bail us out today!) Even though merchants were aware of the counterfeits, they simply looked the other way, and accepted them as if they were the real thing.

To me this coin is as real as it gets, even if this was not officially recognized as legal tender.

 

[CRUSADER]

As you say, not 'funky' enough. But still a very nice conditioned fake, better than any I have found

I am not sure if fake is a fair description of the coin. Fake has the inference of a souvenir purchased at a museum shop. Counterfeit coppers are an important part of our history. They tell a story of a time when there simply wasn't enough coinage around, so some enterprising people did what they had to to save the economy from total failure. (Maybe we need some enterprising people to bail us out today!) Even though merchants were aware of the counterfeits, they simply looked the other way, and accepted them as if they were the real thing.

To me this coin is as real as it gets, even if this was not officially recognized as legal tender.

Understand all that. I used fake, as I can spell it quicker.

 

[TimC (North Alabama)]

Cool beans, a very nice find!

 

[dgaughan]

a beauty neil cleaned up nicely I'm sure don will track it down congrats and continued good luck