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TIMEX ...in the book TRIUMPH IN THE PHILIPPINES PAGE 578 it shows a photo of the last stand area Asin valley its can be viewed on line if u don't have that book ...am not in to alien conspiracy ...but noticed a pattern a long time ago about this area ...even when i look at my son map i seen a triangle on the ground with japanese troops ... i heard gods land of food ... japan and china was in need of a future food source ....can't eat gold maybe gods can ...take a good look at that area from above philippines land of pyramids ....what i seen and heard first hand also look near the rice fields that were they be found it a real pattern ...i read those 21 pages thank u ...this turkey shoot is 12x the size of the one i hunted ...general "LOW I.Q. was a coward this has lowered my hopes ....i also learned what a japanese tank trap looks like now code name "water trap" now i see y they dug up to 350 feet its was to stop a few tanks ....i was getting worried i always believed they were made out of wood and rotted with time or stolen US ones...i want to again thank u ...what happened up there was nothing seen more in one day ...your map june 45 so that gives me more info ,,,"LOW IQ " hiding gold is a joke he couldn't hide food or himself and cut and run plan he didn't steal PT 41 in time ....

 

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One more note about General Yamashita.

At the end of page 577, beginning of 578...

When food was exhausted, he planned to have his most effective remaining troops attempt a breakout from the Asin Valley to the mountains of far northwestern Luzon where, he hoped, more food might be found.

Men not participating in the breakout were to stage banzai attacks on all fronts to cover the effectives' escape.

Expecting that, successful or not, the breakout would mark the complete disintegration of his forces, Yamashita planned to commit hara-kiri during the melee.

Thus, the end of the war came about a month before Yamashita was ready to admit final defeat.

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-P-Triumph/USA-P-Triumph-29.html

I'm starting to dig into Prince Takeda's role in all this.
For someone who helped orchestrate the whole "Golden Lily" Operation, he lived pretty modest after the war.

Still cross checking what I have on him.

Respectfully, tim

 

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That general LOW IQ forgot that baguio means kamikaze that divine wind and it get worse as u head north i guess the old saying would of came true death from above b-24s... after looking at timex map more and knowing what i seen of what other military leaders did .... it all comes down on how lazy LOW IQ was ....i was on the rim of the coin now LOW IQ treasure stories past baguio look impossible this guy lucky he could put on his boots ...remember u could put a millions of ton of gold in baguio caves no u make a new site on the moon and waste rocket fuel ....LOW IQ ....your real enemy is the ants i know first hand

 

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..i seen a manual 104 pages pdf ....japanese defenses and fortifications 1943...on page 45 is that what in that tv show made out of cement a pill box with a port that might of been covered over maybe even damaged by bombing from b24s ....or a bomb shelter which would have a ten foot long low tunnel on one side of the base like where i said in earlier post ...this 104 pages list the specs of all the weapons used and lots of photos and lists the attitude of these defense tactics

 

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timex do u have any idea how that general knew the war was over maybe that bunker was a outpost with a radio to listen to his gurl ROSE ...i seen a real radio (it was the size of a tv set old 20" ) i guess it could of been moved there ...he quit so fast like he had a cellphone call on what to do....was there a guy with a white flag that told him like on other islands ( i heard he was surrounded which means nothing in jungle terrain ) what kind of antenna would be needed to reach Tokyo 3 foot ? ( never seen one found ) somebody here knows this ...to reply back size is that the same as listening

 

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..i seen a manual 104 pages pdf ....japanese defenses and fortifications 1943...on page 45 is that what in that tv show made out of cement a pill box with a port that might of been covered over maybe even damaged by bombing from b24s ....or a bomb shelter which would have a ten foot long low tunnel on one side of the base like where i said in earlier post ...this 104 pages list the specs of all the weapons used and lots of photos and lists the attitude of these defense tactics

Hi , Just how many M3 Stuart Tanks did the Japanese capture then use against Americans forces ?
Which is the Coward the general who stood by his men in defeat or the the general who jumped on a plain and left in hurry with depending defeat?
Do M3 Stuart Tank or The Japanese Type 95 Ha Go Tank weigh closer to 16 ton or 20 ton?

How many Allied Countries and Axis Countries use square pyramidal fortifications ? The sizes please ?

TP

 

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TIMEX ...in the book TRIUMPH IN THE PHILIPPINES PAGE 578 it shows a photo of the last stand area Asin valley its can be viewed on line if u don't have that book ...am not in to alien conspiracy ...but noticed a pattern a long time ago about this area ...even when i look at my son map i seen a triangle on the ground with japanese troops ... i heard gods land of food ... japan and china was in need of a future food source ....can't eat gold maybe gods can ...take a good look at that area from above philippines land of pyramids ....what i seen and heard first hand also look near the rice fields that were they be found it a real pattern ...i read those 21 pages thank u ...this turkey shoot is 12x the size of the one i hunted ...general "LOW I.Q. was a coward this has lowered my hopes ....i also learned what a japanese tank trap looks like now code name "water trap" now i see y they dug up to 350 feet its was to stop a few tanks ....i was getting worried i always believed they were made out of wood and rotted with time or stolen US ones...i want to again thank u ...what happened up there was nothing seen more in one day ...your map june 45 so that gives me more info ,,,"LOW IQ " hiding gold is a joke he couldn't hide food or himself and cut and run plan he didn't steal PT 41 in time ....

Hi .Winners always get to write the history . The book your quoting was published 46 years after the war .Just accurate is the accounts ?TP

 

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Tinpan your right as always but that all i found to look at i have no books it was better then nothing and your 100% right never believe the winners ....tinpan my m-1 garand clip would of flew out of the gun with mc xxx thur , pxttxn , and LOW IQ i know my real enemies ...and am sorry if i say wise xss stuff for give me ...so i wasn't wrong those japanese did have tanks hot ones .... tom u hear that i wasn.t wrong ...tinpan u made my day my father hated tank he was in..... IMF tank commander zeff attacked my son when he made a commit about it was his fault m-60 tank ...and up those dirt trails with high mountains u never get me in a tank i go up against a tiger before mother nature ...u have a great day tinpan big thumbs up ...and timex if i remember right that photo u showed of the general walking if i remember right hes on his way to that school i mentioned earlier ...heard that from a local tourist site ... and like tinpan said the winners write the history

 

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Tinpan i don't remember seeing tanks in the pages i look at if i remember the 80 mm AT and 20 mm machine cannon AA gun weight was 1600 lbs each ....i remember the 1952 old d-8 was about 20 ton the 70's model was i think 34 tons and a 1966 TD 20 was 18 tons ...i wasn't allowed to ask about tanks .....and in negros i never seen one and have very little knowledge of them ...up past baguio a guy with some stolen dynamite could cause a land slide easy ... that big earth quake there cut the whole city off from the outside and the fog u have to be crazy to fly there and ants and bugs am more afraid of them then the NPA ...I seen when hunting a huey firing down about 10 miles away...... last small war (100 miles from where am at where they burned PT 41) 1000 killed ...so anybody wants to have fun hunting good luck

 

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Tinpin i know u know all about tank traps ....before i look at this thread i never had a reason to look all i remember was my dad friend joe that was at bataan story ...i looked up what he said and saw wooden ones ...i noticed the ones i seen in singapore and aussie land and some in the outer islands of japan those pyramid shape ...if u tell me that object a tank trap i believe it 100% ...i never seen one in my hunts but in dumaguete there 3 bomb shelters half above ground that are about 10 foot above ground that are if i remember right 4 sided pyramid shape build for pilots ...all the stories i heard no fuel no food low on ammo and never waste materials ...here its planes and a few ships ...the ghost hospital ship and the ABUKUMA my son only hunts stories of these 2 ...u look at the time line of that 3 stacker ABUKUMA i believe its not where history says it is something wrong i know the japanese are lieing what they said from there radio and the later PT boat and the 3 different air attacks and local stories doesn't add up but i could be wrong

 

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sorry,wrong thread

 

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Tinpan my son told me am a old fool and losing it .....tinpan is that tank trap from singapore british made ??....or java because in the area my son hunts ....ballast blocks look like what i seen in singapore maybe , hand grenades british , 303 rounds have been found over the years near one wharf 400 miles south on the same sea route ...Tinpan i know aussie is famous for them but singapore or java ?? that tank trap weight .... 20 tons ? it might fit in open sugar cane truck ...i know the train there no problem u had a large crew of guys i guess u had enough time its crazy but possible ...if u don't want to tell me i understand ...another question i once seen a 1945 cat ? i don't know the model i think it was used by the CB's on making a road threw a lowland rice field in early 1946 were there crawler tractors that were Hot ? this would top any thing i ever heard of here ...TINPAN u should of been on that hunt if that british made ...i looked at your finds i see u real know your aussie ones ...but as far i remember there no ingots from there here ...the story here is java book of map story next stop luzon or japan this is the right time period late 1944 on i call it the java period ...if they make a find u should get the credit.. I know for a fact ships stop there from that route none from aussie that i know off...PNG

 

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A question has any one ever heard of any stories of AU moved with aircraft say a yokasuka p1y1 ? i know the military used them over the china sea and sulu sea there one in basay .. and a few other famous attacks else where ...

 

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Hi .Winners always get to write the history . The book your quoting was published 46 years after the war .Just accurate is the accounts ?TP

Published 1963.

About the author: Robert Ross Smith

The Author
Robert Ross Smith receive d a B.A . an d M.A . in American History from
Duke University . A graduate of the Infantry Officer Candidate School at
Fort Benning , Georgia , in 1943 , he served on the staff and faculty of the
Special Services School at Washington and Lee University and then, for two
years, was a member of the G- 3 Historical Division to General Douglas
MacArthur's General Headquarters , Southwest Pacific Area. He presently
holds a reserve commission a s a lieutenant colonel of Infantry .

Mr. Smith has been with the Office of the Chief of Military History ,
either as an officer on active duty or as a civilian, since January 1947 .

His first book in the series THE UNITED STATES ARMY IN WORLD
WAR II , The Approach to the Philippines, was published in 1953 .

He is currently working on his third volume for the series , The Rivier at o the
Rhine.

Mr . Smith's other works include an essay in Command Decisions
(New York : Harcourt Brace and Company , 1959 , an d Washington : Office
of the Chief of Military History , 1960) ; an article on tactical supply prob -
lems in Military Review; the article on the Pacific phase of World War II
in the Encyclopedia Britannica; and an account of the Battle of Ox Hill
(1 September 1862 ) in Fairfax County and the War Between the States, a
publication of the Fairfax County (Va. ) Civil War Centennial Commission.

https://history.army.mil/html/books/005/5-10-1/CMH_Pub_5-10-1.pdf

Take a quick look at his sources.
He was sent to the Philippines in 1957, for research, and the forward is dated 1961.

But do take a look at his sources.

Also written by him:
The Approach to the Philippines
Library of Congress Catalog Number: 53-60474
First Printed 1953-CMH Pub 5-8

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-P-Approach/index.html

SMITH, Robert Ross : Author
Title: UNITED STATES ARMY IN WORLD WAR II
The War in the Pacific THE APPROACH TO THE PHILIPPINES
Published by: Office of the Chief of Military History, Dept. of the Army, Washington DC, 1953
This volume describes the operations of Allied forces in the Pacific theaters during the approach to the Philippines, April through October 1944. Whilst essentially the story of U.S. Army ground combat operations during the approach, the activities of all ground, air, and naval forces are covered for complete understanding.


SMITH, Robert Ross : Author
Title: UNITED STATES ARMY IN WORLD WAR II
The War in the Pacific TRIUMPH IN THE PHILIPPINES
Published by: Office of the Chief of Military History, Dept. of the Army, Washington DC, 1963
Devoted principally to the accomplishments of U.S. Army ground combat forces and to the operations of major organized Philippine guerrilla units that contributed notably to the success of the campaign, the volume describes the reconquest of the Philippine archipelago exclusive of Leyte and Samar.


Respectfully, tim

 

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TINPAN ...I just remember ( am face to face researcher ) don't hold me to numbers but the japanese high graders stole how many boats i know they stole a few here what hundreds and in singapore i forget a 100 some one could find the number online ... they torched PT 41 the usa after President Quezon and family made its last trip out of dumaguete ( Quezon had a case with his 3 favorite .22 cal guns in it no treasure) ....i figured tokyo's heroes had orders to use water traps to get tanks that had to be super tanks to make that 200 mile journey ( capture in working order at all costs )...but to move and hid 173 of those traps and hide them in japanese area 173 ....i guess it was to used as markers on top of those pyramids in the area to signal for help to u know who ... let me ask u a question how do u kept those 50,000 troops that moved all that treasure from telling any one ...i guess they all got hung ...but i want to tell u a secret 200 of them from the real fighting fought in luzon entil 1947( true story ) i forget where ...i guess they moved all the gold and it took 2 years then they gave up ...like i said i believe the tourist sites the winners lie to much

 

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Timex i wish i knew how to use a computer 100% before this thread i thought what i heard was true about what happen in baguio now i have even more questions about the Roxas story i never wanted to hear about that general and his bs lies he stupid 250,000 dead that ROSE said who really killed them watch the films he was set up patsy...... any one with a half of a brain knows that a hanging offense ...but u can bomb every city but 2 in japan and get away with it kill your POWs ....WAR not fair

 

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I just drove to old airport road and took a good look at one of those air raid pill box shelter i think it was built in late 1943....I didn't see ray and this was felix guess to ...well its not whats in that video 99% sure even if NOT damaged u can see square steel and this area was attacked ...sept 1944 by corsairs with a 1000 lbs parachute bomb ....for those that don;t know ...that type of weapon is very dangerous to the plane that drops it ....u need time at low level attacks to get clear of the blast ( like a A bomb and a b-29 on a smaller scale ) some of them got caught in coconut trees in this area and didn't go off ..

 

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Tinpin i know u know all about tank traps ....before i look at this thread i never had a reason to look all i remember was my dad friend joe that was at bataan story ...i looked up what he said and saw wooden ones ...i noticed the ones i seen in singapore and aussie land and some in the outer islands of japan those pyramid shape ...if u tell me that object a tank trap i believe it 100% ...i never seen one in my hunts but in dumaguete there 3 bomb shelters half above ground that are about 10 foot above ground that are if i remember right 4 sided pyramid shape build for pilots ...all the stories i heard no fuel no food low on ammo and never waste materials ...here its planes and a few ships ...the ghost hospital ship and the ABUKUMA my son only hunts stories of these 2 ...u look at the time line of that 3 stacker ABUKUMA i believe its not where history says it is something wrong i know the japanese are lieing what they said from there radio and the later PT boat and the 3 different air attacks and local stories doesn't add up but i could be wrong

Hi , The Japanese war time poster for young women was about building radios or breeding carrier pigeons for the war effort . Did America give pigeons war medals for their war time deeds ? Why did so many armies use pigeons even on the battlefield ? Lunch or something else ? TP

 

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When the next show date any one know is this once a week ? i don't think its over with i would of heard on local news ? ...The best site i know of is the cathedral of St joseph ..Hunter Mr Matsumoto aka book of maps says there a 10 ton cow ...( wish i was a young guy ) this show could work a deal to just look no digging GPR or even GPZ 7000 could prove that one possible or just plain stupid ) there so many church sites with possible smaller amounts ,a few waterfall sites and i know of one man made cave site and in the sea the list is endless ..... let see episode 1 possible poison gas , episode 2 possible water trap , let me guess #3 booby trap #4 skeleton buried to kept it secret #5 a spoon #6 what a laugh

 

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I guess after seeing the number views so far.. ...the old gang is paying homage to the hype site ...i guess my theory right with no big finds shown in countless years the new crowd only interest in editing it to just 2 minutes on you tube ...i hope i don't have to take a bus ride to this site to see if its even real i know it not worth it .... in today world it could be all staged ... i guess i better go back to work in little baguio am getting lazy i heard a stay at camp welfare cost big time i rather die trying then give up my freedom