LRP Tones

[GA_Boy]

How many different tones does the LRP have? Maybe different in various Modes?
Curious as to whether I'll be able to differentiate the different tones wearing my hearing aids. I could remove them if needed and still hear pretty good.
How do you rate the balance with the stock DD coil?
Thanks, Marvin

 

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[TheHunterGT]

It has 4 tones...Low/Med/High and then VCO. They do vary in each mode. In Disc 4 you can use all 4 tones. It also has a V-Break option to change where the low tone comes in.
I have pretty good hearing so not sure. But I know with or without headphones I usually run volume 5 of 10.
IMO...the balance is about as good as it gets with the 11DD. The 5in DD from the F5 makes it feather like. With those two coils not much the LRP cannot tackle.

 

[GA_Boy]

Thanks Hunter, I'm sold on it-----------------now to sell my GBII.
Marvin

 

[bowwinkles]

The volume of the LRP was one of the main reasons for me buying one. Once I found that I can run most of the time in the artifacts mode and not have a ground balance issue That is the mode I prefer. I run it max volume and I do not like the tether of having to wear phones. The tone setup in artifact is the way I like it. If I have to use ground balance I use Disc 4 and tune in my own choice of the tones. I am also very hard of hearing and detectors without volume control in many cases are not loud enough (like the ATP) when I am in noisy areas like near traffic. I did not care for the stock coil so I bought the 10 inch Elliptical and never looked back. That coil does everything very well. It has now found enough yellow stuff that it has more than paid for its self a couple times now.

 

[GA_Boy]

Bowwinkles, Thanks for the info---------------------I, believe it or not, enjoy wearing head phones as background noise give me fits.
Marvin

 

[bowwinkles]

Bowwinkles, Thanks for the info---------------------I, believe it or not, enjoy wearing head phones as background noise give me fits.
Marvin

I dont 't mind the phones as much as the cord.

 

[Phantasman]

With the advent of wireless and Bluetooth headphones, you should see those prices drop to where corded phones are a thing of the past. Like WIFI on most devices, detectors will eventually come with self contained transmitters for phones.

My hunting style is to immediately eye the ID number at any tone (I notch the 3 iron segments at 20 disc). You can raise the V-Break to 30 as to have 4 tones even with iron disc-ed out. Low tone becomes foil then.

Tones are good in competition hunts when speed is paramount. But gold falls in VCO and medium on the LRP. Always worth a second look if it locks. But the ID number and it's stability is my final judge.

I only use phones if I go where it may be a bit crowded, or when I use AM seeking out minute sounds in an open field. Otherwise, I run the sound at 5-6 just to get my attention and not everyone elses.

 

[bowwinkles]

With the advent of wireless and Bluetooth headphones, you should see those prices drop to where corded phones are a thing of the past. Like WIFI on most devices, detectors will eventually come with self contained transmitters for phones.

My hunting style is to immediately eye the ID number at any tone (I notch the 3 iron segments at 20 disc). You can raise the V-Break to 30 as to have 4 tones even with iron disc-ed out. Low tone becomes foil then.

Tones are good in competition hunts when speed is paramount. But gold falls in VCO and medium on the LRP. Always worth a second look if it locks. But the ID number and it's stability is my final judge.

I only use phones if I go where it may be a bit crowded, or when I use AM seeking out minute sounds in an open field. Otherwise, I run the sound at 5-6 just to get my attention and not everyone elses.

I would still have to take them off to use the pin Pointer. Maybe these companies will build a combination wireless that accommodates both the detector and the Pin Pointer.

 

[TheHunterGT]

Wireless pinpointer audio in the headphones would be so rad. Sign me up.

 

[N5XTR]

I just got home from a great weekend of detecting. 6 hours straight on Saturday and 7 hours today and zero issues with my LRP, bluetooth transmitter or headphones. I never take the headphones off when pinpointing or chatting with hunting buddies. I will say watching my buds fight their AT Pros headphone cables can be amusing at times, painful too as they drag their machines across the ground.

Ok the tones as stated before on Disc 4 (which I always run, disc=19 v-break=29) Low/Medium/High with VCO in the middle.
from the LRP manual...

"4-Tone Audio Target-ID
The detector will produce 1 of 4 sounds for any metal detected: V.C.O., low-tone,
medium-tone or high-tone. This audio feedback system is useful in conjunction
with the visual Target-ID system described above."​

The hearing aid situation is tricky, some headphones could cause alot of feedback while wearing them over your hearing aids. Using just the speaker, you may just hear wind or environment noise rather than your detector. My suggestion is to get the Taotronics bluetooth transmitter http://amzn.com/B00P24XKS8 and what ever bluetooth headphones you are comfortable with. You may even pair a single earpiece for a phone so you could keep one hearing aid in. It is just finding what works for you best. I personally run the volume at 4/10 on the LRP and it has been perfectly clear. I can even hear the barely audible hum of the detector and know when it discriminates out iron because the hum goes away but no tone emitted. That has been very helpful when I though there was falsing.

As far as balance goes, the LRP and the 11" DD received 13 hours of swinging over the weekend. I discovered that I had the shaft extended too far and it was causing an ache in my shoulder after about 4-5 hours yesterday. I imagine that swinging any detector for 5 hours would make your shoulder ache, no matter the machine. I am looking forward to getting the 5" DD for those trashed out sites like I hunted Saturday but I managed a ring out of a giant cluster of pull tabs

Also there will be folks that say only get bluetooth 4.0 or it will have lag. This is only important on the headphones and not really for the transmitter as 3.0 and up is fine.

Hope this helps,
HH

 

[GA_Boy]

N5XTR, That was a really cool video. I'm lucky in that I don't get feedback from my hearing aids. I really like that Blutooth stuff.
You and TheHunterGT have helped me decide on the LRP.
Is the voltage controlled oscillator (VCO) only for the Iron?
Thanks again, Marvin

 

[N5XTR]

Check out the graph on page 12.
LRP Manual

V-Break adjusts where the low tone stops. An extremely valuable feature.
On my favorite settings on DISC 4 with the disc at 19 and the v-break at 29, IRON is silent - LOW tone is 20-29 (foil range) - MEDIUM tone is 30-39 (nickel range) - VCO is 40-59 (aluminum and zinc ranges) - HIGH tone is 60 - 99 (coins and silver ranges).

 

[Phantasman]

Check out the graph on page 12.
LRP Manual
V-Break adjusts where the low tone stops. An extremely valuable feature.
On my favorite settings on DISC 4 with the disc at 19 and the v-break at 29, IRON is silent - LOW tone is 20-29 (foil range) - MEDIUM tone is 30-39 (nickel range) - VCO is 40-59 (aluminum and zinc ranges) - HIGH tone is 60 - 99 (coins and silver ranges).

Yep. That's the perfect 4 tones minus iron setting. Tones aren't my first preference, but they DO aid in scanning. Tesoro's only use one tone, and they do a good job.

4-5 hours before fatigue is a good report. I've had some (Garrett Master Hunter, Whites CoinPro) that was bothersome after 45 minutes. Go bowling to build up that arm.

 

[bowwinkles]

The reason I like the artifact mode is the absents of the vco tone where nickels are. If ground conditions do not allow the artifact mode then I do use disc 4.

 

[N5XTR]

4-5 hours before fatigue is a good report. I've had some (Garrett Master Hunter, Whites CoinPro) that was bothersome after 45 minutes. Go bowling to build up that arm.

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It appears that I had the detector shaft too long and using my trapezius muscle (between neck and shoulder) to lift the detector.
I will see how a notch or two shorter helps out.

 

[GA_Boy]

One more Question. I know the LRP is not a Relic Detector but Where does LEAD show up on the # Range and what mode would one use? I want to use it not only for coins and jewelry but to detect all different sizes of lead. I know a spot where there is a bunch of lead in differing sizes.
Marvin

 

[N5XTR]

I dug two old 44-40 bullets (1873 Winchester Lever action) they were cast lead with out jacketing or gas checks. I want to say they were around 48-50ish using disc 4.

 

[GA_Boy]

I dug two old 44-40 bullets (1873 Winchester Lever action) they were cast lead with out jacketing or gas checks. I want to say they were around 48-50ish using disc 4.

Thanks, Is the 44-40 bullet range above the penny and near the dime range or what.
Marvin
PS, the place I'm going is nothing but old lead of all sizes. I won't be looking for anything else in that location.

 

[N5XTR]

Thanks, Is the 44-40 bullet range above the penny and near the dime range or what.
Marvin
PS, the place I'm going is nothing but old lead of all sizes. I won't be looking for anything else in that location.

They were just below the zinc pennies if I remember correctly. I will have to plant a couple in the test bed I am working on.