✅ SOLVED Military Ordnance badge identification needed

[oldbattleaxe]

2"x 1 3/8" I know I came to the right place. Any info would be great. Thank you.

 

[sutphin]

NEET FIND>...

 

[oldbattleaxe]

What country? Maybe a hat badge I have been working on this one for a very long time.

 

[4x4x4]

....sewn on

 

[ecmjamsit]

Symbol of a grenadier. Google search showed many variations.

 

[4x4x4]

Here are SIMILAR build/patterned pins.....

https://www.todocoleccion.net/milit...-cuerpo-ingenieros-ejercito-espanol~x28617397

Nothing exact .... similar enough to mention

 

[Mackaydon]

[FONT=&quot]The insignia represents not a bomb, but an iron hand grenade with a powder charge and a fuse which had to be lit before throwing.
The Shell and Flame is considered the oldest branch insignia in the U.S. Army. The use of the Shell and Flame by the Ordnance Branch dates back to 1832. It was also used by the Artillery Branch until 1834 when the Artillery branch adopted the crossed-cannons as its branch insignia.
More info here: History of the Shell and Flame for the U.S. Army Ordnance Corps
Don.......... [/FONT]

 

[nhbenz]

4x4x4 is on to something there... it led me to many more with similar design, like: MEDALLAS E INSIGNIAS DE LA GUERRA CIVIL POSGUERRA Y FRANQUISMO: C.A.S.E. (CUERPO AUXILIAR DE SUBALTERNOS DEL EJ…RCITO)

more examples by googling: Insignia Rombo del Cuerpo

So, a Spanish insignia, and for them it indicates Artillery.

Here's a discussion about these for a Spanish speaker to interpret: http://mundomilitaria.es/foro/index.php?topic=2131.0

 

[DCMatt]

I agree with Ben and 4x4x4. Spanish Army Artillery. Early 20th C.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The insignia represents not a bomb, but an iron hand grenade with a powder charge and a fuse which had to be lit before throwing.
Don..........

Yep. Grenade (from the French for "pomegranate", or Latin "granatum" for the same fruit (with a lot of large seeds)) came to be the identifying emblem of the Grenadiers (who carried, lit and threw them). The British, French and German armies all chose the tall guys for these outfits - because they had to be strong enough and tall enough to light the fuse and throw the darned things far enough they wouldn't hurt their own troops! So Grenadiers came to be known as elite troops.

 

[oldbattleaxe]

I knew I had come to the right place. Treasure net is no #1 Thanks guys