More finds from the DEEP, beautiful 1810 LC and Hammered Silver

HomeGuardDan · Sep 18, 2016

Got out today with a buddy to do some searching at a new area. Had a fun and productive trip on probably one of the last better days of the summer (weather-wise). It started off with a flat button and a spencer casing (CW era) but soon got interesting with an odd placed eagle button (CW button) mixed in with some earl 1700's and 1600's colonial goodies. I struck first with the beautiful 1810 US large cent (picture does not do it justice) and then picked through a few flat buttons and small round balls before a nice silver item turned up. This location has yielded some very early silver and we were at the site of a very early 1600's site. At first I thought it was a worn half real, but it read a few numbers lower than a typical silver half real would (talking one of two digits). I then realized just how thin this sucker was and immediately began to think hammered. It is 12mm and weighs between .6 & .7 gms. It is in rough shape and has some design but it is tough to make it all out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. All in all it was a fun and productive trip with a handful of buttons and two coins. I also managed a nice early copper ring that I believe might be an early bracelet or other use and even eyeballed a few nice pieces of native american pottery and sharks tooth.

HH

Dan

joeyfresh · Sep 18, 2016

The small silver is very intriguing. You can definitely see writing at the top of the coin in photo #7. Hopefully someone will be able to identify it for you. You had a great outing....much better than me!

vpnavy · Sep 19, 2016

Nice finds! Thanks for sharing...

trapperart · Sep 19, 2016

Congrats on some nice finds

sutphin · Sep 19, 2016

MAN NICE BANGLE AND BUTTONS , HAEL EVERYTHING .

Bill D. (VA) · Sep 19, 2016

Dan - that coin certainly has the appearance of a hammered silver, but if it is I don't think it's British. For Elizabeth I through Charles II the silver pennies were 14mm and the half pennies 11mm, and yours is in between those two. And I can't make out enough of the details to provide any useful clues. Based on where it was recovered it just might be a 16th or 17th century coin, but that will be very difficult to confirm and positively ID. Cool find regardless!

Tommy G · Sep 19, 2016

Those are some sweet finds! Congrats!

HomeGuardDan · Sep 19, 2016

Bill D. (VA) said:
Dan - that coin certainly as the appearance of a hammered silver, but if it is I don't think it's British. For Elizabeth I through Charles II the silver pennies were 14mm and the half pennies 11mm, and yours is in between those two. And I can't make out enough of the details to provide any useful clues. Based on where it was recovered it just might be a 16th or 17th century coin, but that will be very difficult to confirm and positively ID. Cool find regardless!

Thanks Bill, it is an odd size and very thin, the only silver coins I knew of that weight and thinness were hammered...always wanted one from the water as I knew it would be crisp...ha boy was I wrong on this one. Might re-measure it today as I did it very quickly and 1mm could easily be off, but I doubt it was 2.

Terry Soloman · Sep 19, 2016

Awesome finds, Congratulations! :occasion14:

joeyfresh · Sep 19, 2016

Also that line running across the top (or bottom) of the coin isn't on any of the silver hammereds that Bill mentioned above. Also the wording at the top of the coin in the 7th photo doesn't seem to go around the perimeter of the coin, it looks like it's going straight across.
I'll continue to look at the Dutch coins but perhaps you should post it on a coin forum.

HomeGuardDan · Sep 19, 2016

joeyfresh said:
Also that line running across the top (or bottom) of the coin isn't on any of the silver hammereds that Bill mentioned above. Also the wording at the top of the coin in the 7th photo doesn't seem to go around the perimeter of the coin, it looks like it's going straight across.
I'll continue to look at the Dutch coins but perhaps you should post it on a coin forum.

Thanks Joey...I was trading a few notes with Bill. I had the measurements wrong it is closer to 18mm and beginning to wonder if it was just a heavily heavily worn half real, though it is very thin and much lighter.

CASPER-2 · Sep 19, 2016

btjbtj · Sep 19, 2016

What a great hunt! Nice large cent, early too. Congrats. -Lisa & John

eyemustdigtreasure · Sep 19, 2016

weight the coin in question, get digital size, too. Test for silver. Have experts determine - its real old, THAT'S For Sure...!
Hard to see any pattern going on, and the 5 holes in it...., BUT a Super Find, none-the-less!!!! :thumbsup:

It might be an old English coin..., who knows....?
Keep us posted, okay? thnx

texjim · Sep 19, 2016

Good job on the finds

Bramblefind · Sep 19, 2016

I can't match it up but my first thought was a Venice Soldino - I didn't know then how they were commonly used in 15th -16th century England. I learned something new :icon_thumleft:

There are a few different varieties.

Here is the history fwiw anyway -- the coin in my mind was the type 3... but your find could very well be something else entirely.

https://finds.org.uk/medievalcoins/denominations/denomination/id/170

Professor of Engineering · Sep 19, 2016

Congratualtions on the great hunt and a hammered coin find! :occasion14:

treblehunter · Sep 19, 2016

cool stuff, nice finds

HomeGuardDan · Sep 20, 2016

eyemustdigtreasure said:
weight the coin in question, get digital size, too. Test for silver. Have experts determine - its real old, THAT'S For Sure...!
Hard to see any pattern going on, and the 5 holes in it...., BUT a Super Find, none-the-less!!!!
It might be an old English coin..., who knows....?
Keep us posted, okay? thnx

Thanks, it 100% is silver and 100% is an old coin, just probably going to be one of those worn beyond ID.

HomeGuardDan · Sep 20, 2016

Bramblefind said:
I can't match it up but my first thought was a Venice Soldino - I didn't know then how they were commonly used in 15th -16th century England. I learned something new There are a few different varieties.

Here is the history fwiw anyway -- the coin in my mind was the type 3... but your find could very well be something else entirely.

https://finds.org.uk/medievalcoins/denominations/denomination/id/170

Thanks, yea I measured it in a big hurry and posted further down below that it is closer to 17mm (perhaps 18mm but has a wave to it). I wish that were the case, well done I learned something too!