motorcycle whatsit

[texan connection]

I know its not dug, but its inline with my relic rescue agenda so Im wondering if any one has any info on this..

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/barracks/290860-whatisit-motorcycle-miltary-style.html

 

[allen_idaho]

Not military. These were never used by the US Armed Forces of any branch.
Based on the serial number, this was a 1980 Honda CT70 which came with a 3 Speed Auto Clutch and 72cc Overhead Cam Engine.
It was only available in one color, Tahitian Red. It also had a white honda sticker, a yellow/orange/red stripe, and a red plastic front fender.

It looks like someone replaced the front fender with a chrome replacement, repainted the bike and put the serial number back on with a cheap stencil set. The bomb stencil was most likely custom made. The military does not stencil on symbols like that. If it were military surplus, there would also be no shiny parts. Everything would be painted. Especially that front fender and light.

 

[texan connection]

It was once red. Yes It was either a early 80 or replaced fenders They would of also replaced the back one., How are you sure they were never used? Many motorcycles were and are used. several inbtresting thing have been done to this Some interesting Body repair, as well as a 80MPH speedo and a smaller engine, 50CC. The paint wasent done well enough to be a custom Redo, More like,, lets slap some paint on and get it going again.

 

[TarheelPanner]

The military wouldnt use mini bikes for one thing, second just because some "interesting things" have been done to the bike doesnt make it military surplus and lastly the paint job is a do it yourself rattle can special not a show winning custom job.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Agree after market do it yourself paint-job. Note all USAF vehicles will have a reg number as such 90B20, 90 being the year made, B being the vehicle type, 20 being the vehicle number here it's the 20th vehicle. That was the Reg Number of the 1990 Mercedes Multi-Stop panel truck/van we had in Germany.

Mike

 

[texan connection]

The paint was a bit better than just spray painted originaly, It was disassembled and painted, not taped up. But appears to have some later body damage that was patched and painted over. I have seen some low CC Bike used by the military. But not this low.So Im guessing thats just your opinion, Im still searching, Tried a Vin search but they dont report previous owners.

 

[texan connection]

Agree after market do it yourself paint-job. Note all USAF vehicles will have a reg number as such 90B20, 90 being the year made, B being the vehicle type, 20 being the vehicle number here it's the 20th vehicle. That was the Reg Number of the 1990 Mercedes Multi-Stop panel truck/van we had in Germany.

Mike

Now were talkin.. The last 2 #'s of the stencieled serial are not part of the CT70's serial # and dont know why they are there.

Does any one recognize the Bomb insignia as from a real unit?

 

[texan connection]

I would think If someone was intrested in a Restore it wouldn't have a trace of red left on it. (As it doesn't now, nor sand yellow) I had it Blasted and repainted. My point ,, going to the extreme of disassembling it and then just sanding it, and spray caning it, seems a bit sill to me.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Another point to ponder, military vehicles normally come painted OD from the factory. When something like a bike/ATV doesn't, it's usually just spray painted in OD or black to take the shine and all off of it. When one of our GOV's was involved in an accident, the damaged area was repaired, masked off and painted. We had this nice square area that was 4 or 5 shades darker than the rest of the truck. I've seen the military use motorcycles, ATC's and ATV's along with the assorted cars, trucks, vans etc, but I have never seen a mini-bike in use. Motorcycles, ATC's and ATV's were used by Special Tactics, Para-Rescue, Combat Control Teams, etc in the AF. I can assume the same holds true in the Army.

Mike

 

[TarheelPanner]

Cant find any piece of info referencing these to military service.

 

[texan connection]

Thanks all.

 

[digging wv]

Have been in the USMC and crewing medium and heavy lift helicopters. Have never hauled anything like that! And we moved a lot of stuff for "various" Marine and Navy units.

 

[texan connection]

Thanks all.

Have been in the USMC and crewing medium and heavy lift helicopters. Have never hauled anything like that! And we moved a lot of stuff for "various" Marine and Navy units.

this is what Im digging for,, thank you.

 

[Rmeav8r]

This is the M1030, (1984 KLR 250). Kawasaki made these for the US Army for about 10 years when they were replaced by a larger M1030 Kawasaki (650 I believe) that ran on either gas or diesel or jet fuel (JP-8). The early models were running around Ft. Campbell in the 80's when I was with the 101st. It was not unusal to see a pair attached to each skid of a huey flying around Ft. Campbell during those days. I never saw one in a Blackhawk, but I'm sure they hauled them.

Scout

 

[GaRebel1861]

My Guess? -> Mexican Army troop transport vehicle