My sister and her killing son... Just to play with his new rifle.

Killing for the fun of it? Half the people out there should not be in the woods hunting, especially with bow and arrow. Numerous times I chase people off my property that are tresspassing, following a blood trail, never asking permission....I go out every spring hunting sheds, find countless unclaimed rotting deer carcasses, firearm gutshot deer....it's really terrible. I'm not anti-hunting, just sayin'.....so many hunters get out once a year and never bother sighting in their firearms or do any kind of target practice.
 

fistfulladirt said:
Killing for the fun of it? Half the people out there should not be in the woods hunting, especially with bow and arrow. Numerous times I chase people off my property that are tresspassing, following a blood trail, never asking permission....I go out every spring hunting sheds, find countless unclaimed rotting deer carcasses, firearm gutshot deer....it's really terrible. I'm not anti-hunting, just sayin'.....so many hunters get out once a year and never bother sighting in their firearms or do any kind of target practice.

Thing about it is when a deer is shot, unless there is a perfect hit. The deer will run a good distance before falling. I have hunted many years ago and trecked through heavy wooded and overbrush area to find the deer. Some cases when shooting game, the animal is always on the alert of it's surroundings. You can have a perfect shot, then as soon as you pull the trigger the animal moves at that moment causing the perfect shot to be off a bit.

I haev lost a two deer in my time due to not being able to find them and trecked for almost 2 hours trying to find him following the blood trail until it ended or couldn't be found anymore.

Some hunters will follow a blood trail and many times the deer gets on property that has no tresspassing signs and most hunters will not venture onto ones land because of that. So the deer likely dies on someone property.

Sucks to leave a wounded game for it to suffer and die, especially if you are looking to fill the freezer, but that is how it ends up sometimes.
 

I'll say it again. Many people shouldn't be allowed in the woods. Where I live, you are allowed to take as many deer as you want on private property. There is bow season, regular firearm and then late muzzle-loading. Farmers are allowed block permits even in summer for deer doing damage to crops. My neighbor allows almost anyone to hunt his acreage and more deer are shot or stuck and lost, than are found. It's really a shame, and most of these people don't need the meat, take a look at their homes, they are well off; or I should say that they really don't need to hunt. I am serious when i say that in the late spring, the stench from rotten deer carcasses around here is nasty.
 

All I can say is aI agree .... the bunny was shot and that is a 22 and his mom an he both need to go to hunter safety course or the gun should go! If any pets in the neighborhood come up shot his gun needs to be checked .
 

The past year or so has been hard on you. Walk away.
Newt
 

It's pretty bad that this kid has been found guilty from a pic of a dead rabbit. Half the pics you see now days have been altered or messed with. I am an avid hunter and outdoorsman and at that age I shot lots of things I didn't eat. Did anyone look at the rabbit and check for a entrance hole from a bullet, probably not. Kinda makes you wonder why the juries trials are are so screwed up now days. People jumping to conclusions with no evidence or facts.
 

jog said:
It's pretty bad that this kid has been found guilty from a pic of a dead rabbit. Half the pics you see now days have been altered or messed with. I am an avid hunter and outdoorsman and at that age I shot lots of things I didn't eat. Did anyone look at the rabbit and check for a entrance hole from a bullet, probably not. Kinda makes you wonder why the juries trials are are so screwed up now days. People jumping to conclusions with no evidence or facts.
Just as millions of kids have, and I bet you didn't turn out to be a mass murderer or a wife beater either!
 

I see the pics and they're probably right about the .22 thing. The clip has too much of a curve for .223 rounds to feed properly, but just right for .22's. I could be right about that, ask a firearms expert. The bigger the rounds, the more straighter the clip, and the more rounds the clip holds, the more curved it appears.
 

I admit i killed alot of stuff needlessly when i was young like frogs, snakes, birds, windows, tires, stop signs. guns were all over the house easy to get and we had a reloader so we could reload shells as fast as we shot em. rifle or shotgun or pistol. it is not a good thing to do and i learned my lesson, i don't kill anything no more. i have hunted almost all animals, i used to trap and had to hit em with a bat to avoid putting a hole in the hide. my point is i used to kill lots of stuff now i can get plenty of already killed stuff so i don't do it anymore. i feel bad for the little critters. if i needed i would but.......
 

When I was young I was a deadeye with a pellet gun. I used to shoot birds, rabbits, groundhogs all the time. Thank god I grew out of it. I don't kill anything anymore. I get a sick feeling when I hit a butterfly with my car. I now hunt with a camera. I got very good with it and am a pretty good amateur wildlife photographer. The point i'm trying to make is 99.9% of the time these kids do grow out of it.It's the other .1% that makes the evening news.Other than hunting legally for the meat senseless killing is not a good thing. Monitor their behavior and hope they learn a respect for life as I did.
Chris
 

Definiely a high powered bullet. I used to own a 222 which is high powered but not as powerful as the one that killed that rabbit. Even mine once killed a rabbit by just grazing its head. One tiny drop of blood, thats all. Max
 

Do any of you actually believe that a cat two times bigger than most dogs would kill a rabbit of that size and not eat the whole thing in one sitting. I had a house cat that would catch rabbits that size and eat most of it in a day. Now a bobcat is another story, may have been spooked off it's kill and didn't return and was left to lay.
Personally if that rabbit was shot with a 223 it would be opened up like the end of a five gallon bucket.
 

traderoftreasure said:
what about the fur? it would of been a matted bloody mess

Exactly. A predator would have at least licked the fur... but we see no "cow licks". But, as someone previously mentioned, the jury is still out. I keep trying to call my brother to ask if that's his rifle in the photo, but he's in a remote part of Arkansas, and his girlfriend recently got "The Internet" (a wonderful new contraption), and he spends all his time over there, so it's hard to get a hold of him. But, I'm thinking that it's probably my brothers rifle, and the nephews 6 hour trip from his house to my brothers probably didn't contain his .223 in the trip. ...jury's still out.

I used to live in Canada on a wheat farm. it was one of my jobs to kill as many gophers as I could with a .22 rifle. I can tell you that this rifle presented all types of different wounds in the animal. Glancing blows would do minimal damage, while others just leave 12 different pieces. It's just the nature of the particular hit at time of day, in that temperature, humidity, what the stock market was that day... You get the idea.... It's pretty random. I will agree that a .223 is a lot more powerful, but the bullet is about the same as a .22 bullet. I've used a 30.06 for some time too (my favorite round), and it creates random outcomes too.
But, the jury is still out.
 

The legs were removed after the rabbit was shot. You don't shoot all four legs off a rabbit with one shot, at least not with a rifle. If there is more damage on the other side of the rabbit, it's probably the exit wound. The legs were removed with a knife. The mother's defense, she may actually believe the rabbit was killed by a cat. If she is doesn't realize the kid shouldn't be shooting without supervision, she may not be aware of what a mauled rabbit would look like.
 

I just confirmed... The rifle belongs to my brother and is a .22. The .223 was left at home that day. Another thing that gets me, is that the ground is not disturbed. You would think that if a predator got to it, there would be fur all over the place.

I think it's pretty much the majority opinion that it wasn't a predator that got a hold of this wabbit. I'll start a new thread if anything 'new' comes up, like "it was confirmed to be a rifle kill"... But I don't think that post will ever be written, for obvious reasons.
 

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