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Need help with headstamp ID.
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From the following link; Musgrave Manufacturers and Distributors (Pty) Ltd, P O Box 183, Bloemfontein, Republic of South Africa. Maybe June 1940?
Headstamp Codes - International Ammunition Association
Headstamp Codes - International Ammunition Association
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It's American made 9mm from 1940. Possibly made by Winchester?
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I'm not sayin ,just some checking came up with little off the bat.
[the early stuff 9 MM 40 and 41 has the same type bullets and same case construction as the Canadian Military during WW II and some 41, and all the 42-45 has the same bullet and case construction as the Canadian military stuff they started buying 55 which was their first post-WWII buy I know of. This kind of locks in the dates.
I believed it was made for China because Jim Houlden told me it was, even when I told him that there were rumors that it was made after the war for the CIA. In fact, he said he had seen the production documents. I probably still have his letter somewhere. In addition, I have a document dated 21 June 1945 that confirms that Canada sent China, as part of the US Lend Lease program, sent the following to China:]
https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/canadian-7-92mm-and-9mm-hdstmps/6926
[the early stuff 9 MM 40 and 41 has the same type bullets and same case construction as the Canadian Military during WW II and some 41, and all the 42-45 has the same bullet and case construction as the Canadian military stuff they started buying 55 which was their first post-WWII buy I know of. This kind of locks in the dates.
I believed it was made for China because Jim Houlden told me it was, even when I told him that there were rumors that it was made after the war for the CIA. In fact, he said he had seen the production documents. I probably still have his letter somewhere. In addition, I have a document dated 21 June 1945 that confirms that Canada sent China, as part of the US Lend Lease program, sent the following to China:]
https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/canadian-7-92mm-and-9mm-hdstmps/6926
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For my education can you elaborate on your identification? What source did you use?
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Some sources are also saying Canadian which is possible, I remember seeing WW2 US 9mm ammo though and from what I remember this was the headstamp.9mm US Made Ammo in WWII? - AMMUNITION [REF] - U.S. Militaria Forum
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I did some searching and came up with the this link. Scroll down and you will see the cartridge with a 6 44 date code. Then read reply #33. If this information is true that cartridge has a very interesting background.
VN Era USGI 9MM Ball Ammo? - Page 2 - FIREARMS & ORDNANCE - U.S. Militaria Forum
VN Era USGI 9MM Ball Ammo? - Page 2 - FIREARMS & ORDNANCE - U.S. Militaria Forum
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