The last thing I need is another Detector. I still have them all, from my first one I bought used in 1983 to number 7, all lined up nice and pretty, and all hung up on a peg board, without battery's in them of course, except for the EQ 800. That's the one I use now. All the pre-order stuff? That would be the last thing I'd do, not until other fella's have used them to see what there is to see to hear what they might have to say. So again, ANOTHER detector for me? I'm pushing 70 now, I SHOULD think about giving up the hobby. Legs hurt, getting down and up again, down and up again, down and up & down & up..... so now, having said all that....... I did what I said I'd never do. I PRE-Ordered one, first time ever, the pro pack, extra battery, 6" coil why in the world would I do that? after all that I said? well........ ahhh.....because I.... well you know......bye