OLD BENTWOOD BOXS MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

[Ralphw]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

shoe definitely looks 1800s at the oldest..... machine stitched. could be much later...1900s

 

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[hmmm]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

MONTANA
So less than 5 miles from your house you have this huge vast area containing all this stuff and for over 20 years you've contemplated and planned and contacted everyone on the planet thinking that the evidence will rewrite history and nobody cares but you...

I have always stayed away from the burial cave's until i stumbled across one in 2004, what i have been trying to get the archeis to come and see is the solstice caves.


And the guy who found 12 fully armored men? He just left everything there?
respect for the dead.
And this is also the first time you posted that information.

I have posted this befor.
.. will it take another 20 years for you to write the whole story here too?

Hmmmmm... Seems to me you need to start detecting tot-lots and forget this business. Or start a web site and post a chronological journal... I can't wait for one new picture a week to see how this ends... cripes.
I do have a web site on this stuff, started it in 1995. have you seen the video on my on line muesm
http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/atochaspictures/
as for the threats I have got , the video shows it all. a sacred mountain that i have been trying to get attention to for 20 years. the value of the timber out weighs the historical value.
What kind of help to do expect to get here on TreasureNet? I think you just like telling this story... and that's all there is to it.

I have got lots of help from these fourms.
The shoe is from the 1800's, this is the cave the archeologist said was result of small pox .

 

[justine093]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

ok, I really would like to believe in el dorado and shangri-la...
(I think most of us on t-net do, that's why we do what we do)

my suggestion is to video document everything, and get a
you-tube thing going, you can reach thousands of people or more.
Send links to every freakin' anthropology/archeology dept. you can.
If this is real, someone will tell you and come out.
start a myspace page for your project and contact interested parties
through that medium. We are in the technological age, it is not hard
to reach lots of people, and eventually the right people.
(also email links to discovery channel and history channel.
(these guys need all the stuff they can get to entertain the masses)
go to non-mainstream groups also (there are probably a billion and
one UFO/conspiracy/mystery/paranormal groups who would listen to you.)

but you MUST do it in a concise manner. start with the facts
of WHAT YOU KNOW IS TRUE, and get into conjecture later.
come up with an outline of your facts, If you want, sure , save
the juicy stuff for last. but the way you are doing this is very
confusing, and you are doing yourself a diservice by no being clear.
best of luck.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

I believe the box is a old shipping crate made with square wooden dowels. The boy in the box will turn out to be young J Hawkins jr.
Murdered by drake and placed as a skull and cross bones in the crate marking the medicen mans cave.

He's using R.L. Stevenson's Treasure Island as the basis of the cave's history? Suppose Long John Silver's crutch is in there, too?

Ben Gunn was on deck alone, and as soon as we came on board he began, with wonderful contortions, to make us a confession. Silver was gone. The maroon had connived at his escape in a shore boat some hours ago, and he now assured us he had only done so to preserve our lives, which would certainly have been forfeit if "that man with the one leg had stayed aboard." But this was not all. The sea-cook had not gone empty- handed. He had cut through a bulkhead unobserved and had removed one of the sacks of coin, worth perhaps three or four hundred guineas, to help him on his further wanderings.

I think we were all pleased to be so cheaply quit of him.

And we know young Jim Hawkins returned to the Admiral Benbow, for twas he as wrote the book. Arrr.

PS - Anybody figured out what a "dem board" is yet or when rivited shackle plates were used to make dagger handles?

 

[hmmm]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

Here's another quote from you.

In canada its illigal to take any object older then 1846, or any thing connected to burials.

Noticed on your web page that there is some items older than 1846. So, it looks like you are already in deep #@!$%#@!, Go ahead and dig the rest of the stuff! What's another 10 years to a life sentence.

Tony

aS I TOLD THE HERRITAGE BRANCH, nothing i have, is older then 1846 as far, as i am concerned.
if the laws worked, then the big logging company sould go to jail for the knowing dessicration of a sacred site.

 

[wirelessworldinc]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

If I were you I would metal detect those caves and everything around it. Mary ann

 

[Ralphw]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

charlie.... dem boards = them bones

 

[imafishingnutt]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

Oh yea... and the shoe... I'm just saying...

Those shos are no older that 1900
those bone or should i say Victoms
this whole this stinks like foul Play if you ask me.
You want answers Ill get you answers.
your calling the wrong people
Call the feds.

 

[imafishingnutt]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

This thread is frustrating.
I dont believe for one minute those items found like the King George items go with those bones,
though they may have been found with them doesnt meen they go to them

Its a sad thing to see such a wonderful find
RAPED AND PILLAGED
And I cant believe some one would even take there kid in a place like that and then take pics of them moving items that should not be touched.
You talk and act as though you care about this find yet you stomp all around in there and allow your kids to move things.
I was going to say other things too but decided to remove it out of respect to the poster
But i have just 1 Question for him

I was Wondering if you feel ashamed of yourself for pillaging those caves Just a question ?

One thing to keep in mind VERY VERY IMPORTANT
This is a classic Example of why States are trying to outlaw Metal Detecting. Think About it
The reson I say this after my early thread of have at it is now we see more facts come into play
I meen no disrespect to the poster of this thread in any way i just hope he relizes what he is doing.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

charlie.... dem boards = them bones

Oooooooo. A music key. Deviously clever.

'Ya gotta lay these things out plain for me. Preferably in few words without a lot of links to prior threads.

 

[Ramitt]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

This thread is unbelievablely entertaining. Thanks to all participants.

 

[hmmm]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S AND DEM BOARDS

THE PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT IS THE LOCAL LAWS. i have learned the hard way that there are treasure hunting companies with millions of dollars, they have no problem taking what i have found and breaking the law to do it. It happened with the first box i found, after i found the site, i went home , researched what it could be, when i went back 3 months later , the site looked as if nothing had changed , but things did change, and the buried treasure was gone. for all i know , it could have been 500,000 silver coins , all cemented together, buried deep within a cave , marked by the pirates skull and cross bones. if my story is hard to follow, its because of the frustration of finding something, and walking away leaving it for those less honest. this picture is what we found 3 months later, you dint want to hear what i have to say , which was caught on video.

FISHINNUT, be for the thread gets locked i am going to defend my self.
the kid is holding a rock.
as for what i found 3 months later , the box had the mat taken, the skull had been tipped over and it looked as if the someone had light the box on fire. i was angry because the gov refused to send someone down when i reported it.
the king George stuff never came from a cave and the beads and hook and crown anchor button came from an old home stead.
What sucks is soon the treaty will be settled, all the human remains in the teritory will be removed , handed to the tribes for re burial re buried.
If what i found is from pirates, drake or some other white culture, they will all be buried under the title "first nation human remains"
the ones who should be ashamed is the first nation logging company in partnership with the big logging company for committing acts of terrorism, and destroying the most sacred site on the Americas, the mountain depicted in the solstice caves..
I tried to stop them, but they stoped me.

20 years ago i told my gov that i found a sacred place on and around this golden mountain, how far do you think the logging company and there friends would go to shut me up and take the mines.
the old growth forests on the mountain are gone and the mountain is riddled in roads and ready for minning. still no archeologist has come to see what i found.
this only took 12 years to completly clear cut this refugium.

http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/atochaspictures/?action=view&current=willyshort.flv

 

[hmmm]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

ok, I really would like to believe in el dorado and shangri-la...
(I think most of us on t-net do, that's why we do what we do)

my suggestion is to video document everything, and get a
you-tube thing going, you can reach thousands of people or more.
Send links to every freakin' anthropology/archeology dept. you can.
If this is real, someone will tell you and come out.
start a myspace page for your project and contact interested parties
through that medium. We are in the technological age, it is not hard
to reach lots of people, and eventually the right people.
(also email links to discovery channel and history channel.
(these guys need all the stuff they can get to entertain the masses)
go to non-mainstream groups also (there are probably a billion and
one UFO/conspiracy/mystery/paranormal groups who would listen to you.)

but you MUST do it in a concise manner. start with the facts
of WHAT YOU KNOW IS TRUE, and get into conjecture later.
come up with an outline of your facts, If you want, sure , save
the juicy stuff for last. but the way you are doing this is very
confusing, and you are doing yourself a diservice by no being clear.
best of luck.

 

[A. Grignon]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

Gotta speak up again. So far, since I have been gone I see a 1900's shoe, late 1800's button, and late 1800's logging tool, and what looks to me like late 1900's skeletons.
I would have to agree with whoever told you to call the feds. I have seen old bones and those bones don't look old to me no matter how dry this cave is.

 

[justine093]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

even though the original posts were removed.
can the information be reposted that links to
all of Hmmmm's sites.
I think it's important to see the full overall view here.
and they add so much to this thread.

 

[Ralphw]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

Gotta speak up again. So far, since I have been gone I see a 1900's shoe, late 1800's button, and late 1800's logging tool, and what looks to me like late 1900's skeletons.
I would have to agree with whoever told you to call the feds. I have seen old bones and those bones don't look old to me no matter how dry this cave is.

i tend to agree about the human remains, my first thought was, "they don't look over 10 years old"

did anyone ever check?

 

[hmmm]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

HERE IS A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE AREA. about 500 years ago the local natives left the sound and hid up the big river , they stayed there till the early 1800's. i THINK IT Was because of the spanish .
about 10 years ago, my friend found one of the skull and cross bones, he thought it was foul play, he demanded the rcmp date it. the cops came down and took the skull they dated it to 235 years ago. This puts it in the 1700's. but as i said, there is a lot of over laping history.
I often wounder what robert lewis stevenson was doing just 2 miles from jimmys cave. I bet he knew it was here somewhere and tried to find it. the plot thickens.

 

[hmmm]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

OK! HERE WE GO!!


Makes reference to the 12 armored soldiers. And it appears that the bones are being mapped.

Now, is the web page yours? Guess you could of referred us to it to begin with.

Tony

and have every profecional treasure hunter in the world messing up the sites.
Its bad enough the ships are being done.
I have spent 23 years trying to get protection, to date nothing is realy protected.

 

[acoomer]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

You should sell your story to Disney.
I can see it now… National Treasure 3: Dem Boards

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

Hiding this possible cure for cancer is what we should be ashamed of.

I raise your ,