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Old Colonial Road Yields Potential Counterfeit Cut Piece + 1700s Trade Knife

Colonial KirkPA

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Hey, what in the heck is uuuup forum dudes? KirkPA is here and ready to relate a tale of Colonial relic hunting. Yes, as many of you dudes may know, I am a passionate hunter of Colonial artifacts, sooooo I went in search of these things. :tongue3: After I stated my boyfriendly, "Goodbye, sweetpie" to my babe, I was off in search of some old stuff. :tongue3: :tard: :D :o

As I placed my detector verrrry softly in the back of my car and turned on some tunes (what in the heck??? Elton John's "Daniel" started to play...Stacia still had her C.D. in my slot...:tongue3:...oh well, I listened to it and smiled like a happy 'liker' of this great man/singer :tongue3: :D), I was off to the "Old Colonial Road" site.

After unpacking my professional equipment :tongue3:, I was detecting my way to an area that I had in mind. :tongue3: After sweeping for about an hour with nothing to show for, I soon was welcomed with numerous nullings of my threshold. Now, being a professional, I knew that I was onto a dwelling. You may ask your intellagint minds :tard: :tongue3: :D, "How does he know that?" Well, let me tell you this, I just KNOW! :P :D Kyle and I have seen a amateur detectorist walk straight through these iron patches and say, "No iron!" Well, let me tell you this, we know it is iron and lets just keep it at that! :P :icon_pirat:

After listening intently to these nullings, kind of like John Walter used to do and possibly STILL doing today :o :D, I came across a good signal and looked down...a flat button was on the ground. Cool! :tongue3: :D I soon started to grid with patience and was soon greeted with many signals. During the next couple hours, I dug numerous musketballs and a couple more buttons. I also picked up some nice pottery pieces and some black glass (typical on Colonial sites). As you will see, I also excavated a Colonial crotal bell...check out the pattern on it! Check out the pewter Colonial spoon part I dug! :wink:

This was when it started to get fun...COLONIAL style, BABY! :D :tongue3: I was soon welcomed with a nice 46 VDI and looked down again...a relic or coin was on the ground. Cool! :tongue3: It turned out to be a Chinese cash coin...probably late 1700s. ;D My patience started to pay off! :icon_sunny: In the same area, I got a nice iron hit and dug down to 3" and excavated what looked to be part of a knife. As you can see, the handle broke off of it...it is definitely Colonial! :) Just for reference, the knife was recovered about 50 yards from where I found my Levanna point. It kind of looks like a trade item that the white man would have given to the Native American in return for fur or other skins. :)

NOW, here comes the potential good part. I was digging a target, when this coin-looking object popped out of the hole. Zoyboy stated that it is characterstic of a spelter counterfeit cut piece. It is obvious that this thing is a coin of some sort. As you will see, it was obviously cut to make change. On the pic, check out the dot on the upper left...it could be porous surface due to the cheap metal...very typical for counterfeits. On the other side of the object, I can see what looks like a "C"...possibly the 'C' in 'Carolus.' :) What do you guys think? :)

All in all, I had a great time hunting a true Colonial site. Analog strikes again! ;D

Keep the passion high!

Kirk

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KirkPA,
Yo dude, awesome day!
TN Joe
 
Kirk
Since you found the French trade knife, I would like to trade for my 17,000 year old copper axe.......................OOOOOOOOOOF
Nice finds looney
CSZ
 
Yo, My Bro,

Outstanding recovery on that trade knife. I would take that anyday over 5 coppas. You don't find many of those buggards. You are a true pro, bro, for digging those iron hits. :thumbsup:

Our finds for the month:

-1000-year-old copper trade axe (my uncle was offered $600 from a local archaeologist) :thumbsup:
-1700s trade knife
-1825 Coronet cent
-1807 Draped Bust large cent
-1828 Coronet cent

Oh, a local archaeologist was so impressed with our recoveries and research, that this person wants us to give a speech at their next meeting. They want us to share some of our expertise in the COLONIAL aspect of our county.

Note: All were found on private property with total consent from the landowner.
 
Nice mix of finds Kirk, sent a PM on some info on your finds.

Don
 
Super finds Kirk :thumbsup: I really like the crotal bell and it looks to be in great shape. Shame that the plows are going to delay you for a while, sounds like you have an outstanding site!! I'm sure your going to party like it was 1699 tonight....well OK maybe 1988... :icon_jokercolor:
 
renob151 said:
Super finds Kirk :thumbsup: I really like the crotal bell and it looks to be in great shape. Shame that the plows are going to delay you for a while, sounds like you have an outstanding site!! I'm sure your going to party like it was 1699 tonight....well OK maybe 1988... :icon_jokercolor:

Thanks, dude, for the reply. The crotal bell is broken though...it p*ssed me off! >:(

These Colonial sites are fun to hit. Persistence and patience is what I have to find all the relics! :D

Kirk :thumbsup:
 
zoyboy said:
Yo, My Bro,

Outstanding recovery on that trade knife. I would take that anyday over 5 coppas. You don't find many of those buggards. You are a true pro, bro, for digging those iron hits. :thumbsup:

Our finds for the month:

-1000-year-old copper trade axe (my uncle was offered $600 from a local archaeologist) :thumbsup:
-1700s trade knife
-1825 Coronet cent
-1807 Draped Bust large cent
-1828 Coronet cent

Oh, a local archaeologist was so impressed with our recoveries and research, that this person wants us to give a speech at their next meeting. They want us to share some of our expertise in the COLONIAL aspect of our county.

Note: All were found on private property with total consent from the landowner.

Zoyboy,

We are having a great month! The trade items that we have found are top-notch! I would have to agree, they are better than the typical coppa coins.

Heck, we will have the History Channel coming after us soon! :tongue3: :D

Keep researching!

Kirk :coffee2:
 
Colonial Silver Zeus said:
Kirk
Since you found the French trade knife, I would like to trade for my 17,000 year old copper axe.......................OOOOOOOOOOF
Nice finds looney
CSZ

How often do we see 17,000 year old axes being posted? :D We must keep sweeping!

Colonials are in our future! :wink: :D

Kirk
 
Hats off to ya colonial diggin dude !! :icon_salut: <--hat is missing

Tracking down the long forgotten hidden sites aint easy...I know this , and Zoy has the gift to research and locate !

That blade is a SWEET recovery :thumbsup: The story it could tell...scalping , hand to hand fights to the death , cutting up the evenings dinner of deer meat !
The cut pie-piece of colonial currency will look great in the KirkPa display !!

Cool the little woman cut ya loose for day :icon_queen:

Keep diggin !! :notworthy:

Derek :occasion18:
 
Hello Kirk,

Good to see you out there diggin' away. I'm sure you are very excited about your finds at your site!! An 18th century trade knife and a counterfeit cut piece are very unique finds!! :thumbsup:

That's the great thing about your colonial sites....it's not just about the old Coppas and Wilvers. There's plenty of more interesting relics to keep your passion high!!!

Talk to you later, buddy!! Hope you can get back out there next week!

CAPTN SE
Dan
 
Derek752 said:
Hats off to ya colonial diggin dude !! :icon_salut: <--hat is missing

Tracking down the long forgotten hidden sites aint easy...I know this , and Zoy has the gift to research and locate !

That blade is a SWEET recovery :thumbsup: The story it could tell...scalping , hand to hand fights to the death , cutting up the evenings dinner of deer meat !
The cut pie-piece of colonial currency will look great in the KirkPa display !!

Cool the little woman cut ya loose for day :icon_queen:

Keep diggin !! :notworthy:

Derek :occasion18:

Yo, Derek, what's up, dude? I know what you mean, man! You know how to sniff out those Colonial sites as well!

Your posts are always top-notch and your coppa seeking skills are unbelievable! :wink:

As you know, all pros dig iron hits and I know you have in the past and still do today! You just never know, dude, a trade axe could be that next iron overload hit!

Keep sweeping with your passion!

Kirk

Captn_SE said:
Hello Kirk,

Good to see you out there diggin' away. I'm sure you are very excited about your finds at your site!! An 18th century trade knife and a counterfeit cut piece are very unique finds!! :thumbsup:

That's the great thing about your colonial sites....it's not just about the old Coppas and Wilvers. There's plenty of more interesting relics to keep your passion high!!!

Talk to you later, buddy!! Hope you can get back out there next week!

CAPTN SE
Dan

Dan,

It is nice to hear from you, dude! Yes, these Colonial sites do have more to offer instead of coppas. This knife was a thrill to find. When I recovered it, I knew it was something special. I have to restore it now and get some of the crud off. It should look nice once it is complete!

I hope you have a great day and an even better metal detecting weekend! :wink: :D

Keep sweeping!

Kirk :thumbsup:
 
Kirk dude,

i must have missed this post (?)
NICE FINDS man !

that site is so huge and full of history, there's gotta be more up there
i try and hit it like once a week, but man i end up walking like 2 or 3 miles when i'm done !

take care,

kevin
 
You sure that's a chinese coin? Does it have characters on it, or is it plain? It looks like an ooooold "concho" to me.

Cool finds,


Buck
 
Nice digs Kirk! Cool finds :thumbsup:
 
KirkPA said:
Folks,

Here is a picture of my 18th century trade knife. From all the info we have read, we have concluded that it is, indeed, a trade knife. I am pumped! :thumbsup:

We have written proof that the Seneca Indians frequented this area in the 1700s. Also, there is archaeological evidence, from this site I have provided, that the Seneca tribe had trade knives with them.

http://www.lanouvelle-france.com/Frenchtradeknives/morefrenchtradeknives.htm

Kirk

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Man.. nice digs... the cut piece.. a lousy "home brew" pewter mix maybe??? Glad you posted a picture of the knife.. I dug two of those at a colonial site I am working.. thought they were just "normal" knives!! I also got a trade axe from the same site... now.. I need to go dig out my box of junk and find them!!!

MonkeyBoy
 

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