Old military buttons and breast plate?

[rbcumbee74]

Found these buttons and what l believe to be a breast plate outside of my great grand mothers house a while back. I was hoping somebody could give me some insight as to how old they were. Thanks.

 

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[fever87]

"Great Seal" US military buttons were introduced about WWI and the larger one is appears to be a rosette (not a breast plate).

 

[rbcumbee74]

Thanks for the info. Like I said I had no clue as to whether that was a breast plate or not, just taking a gander. Thanks for your help.

 

[geturdug]

i have one of the same.I thought it was a breast plate myself but i have looked in breast plate catogories and never found it.I did see one in an auction one time but never another one..I found mine on a cunst site on a military base

 

[geturdug]

i have one of the same.I thought it was a breast plate myself but i have looked in breast plate catogories and never found it.I did see one in an auction one time but never another one..I found mine on a cunst site on a military base View attachment 933665

Here is a pix of the back of mine.Notice the two small circles where it looks like a belt loop broke off..google rosette and see what comes up...i think these are breast plates

 

[kuger]

Here is a pix of the back of mine.Notice the two small circles where it looks like a belt loop broke off..google rosette and see what comes up...i think these are breast plates View attachment 933672

Those are not breast plates,they are Bridal Rosettes
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[rbcumbee74]

Geturdug mines solid on the back but you can see the two circles where the pin use to be. Great info, I looked it up on google and they are indeed rosettes and not breast plates. I just find it odd all of this military stuff is in the backyard of my great grandmothers. Guess I'll have to do a little more hunting : )

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The first button is a "Great Seal" US Army button. Having a raised rim around its edge means it is from 1910 or later. In the World War One era those buttons had a "black finish" to keep the brass from exposing a hidden soldier's position to the enemy. That coloration was discontinued in 1923 and not resumed later. I can't be sure from your photo whether your button has any traces of "black finish" remaining on it or not.

The second button is an imitation of the US Navy's button made for use on civilian clothing.

The third item is a "Great Seal" US Army horseharness rosette, first issued about 1902 and still in use. Of course, most of those date from before World War Two, when the US Army stopped using horses for almost anything except Ceremonial purposes. One photo below shows your Great Seal rosette on the horsegear. The other photo shows the brass bar on its back for connecting it to the leather straps.

 

[geturdug]

Those are not breast plates,they are Bridal Rosettes
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Looks like i was wrong ...they are bridal rossetes...any idea the value on them