One approach to over population of Bears that some States have

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Some people have many encounters out mining or prospecting.​

Alaska to resume bear-killing program, despite court order finding it to be void​

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The Alaska Department of Fish and Game said Friday it will resume its predator control this weekend in Western Alaska, despite a court ruling two days earlier that determined the program remains in violation of the state constitution.

The program, which is using aircraft to kill bears in the area used by the ailing Mulchatna Caribou Herd, will resume on Saturday, the department said in a statement.

In its statement, the Department of Fish and Game said Superior Court Judge Christina Rankin’s decision against issuing a restraining order that was sought by an environmental organization, the Alaska Wildlife Alliance, allows predator control to be carried out, as authorized by the Board of Game in March.

 

[GirlWithWolf]

That really sucks.

 

[ncsuwolf]

Regardless of your opinion of the killing of bears, I disagree with the approach. Africa is a good example of how to make money off animals, while achieving culling/population goals.( They also learned you can take a photo of an animal 100 times living vs once dead). Need to kill off 20 elephants in a certain district…. No problem, 25k/tag and it’s done. Instead of shooting from the air by state employees, why not have a special hunt…..$10k/tag. Use that money for conservation for the caribou.

 

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Regardless of your opinion of the killing of bears, I disagree with the approach. Africa is a good example of how to make money off animals, while achieving culling/population goals.( They also learned you can take a photo of an animal 100 times living vs once dead). Need to kill off 20 elephants in a certain district…. No problem, 25k/tag and it’s done. Instead of shooting from the air by state employees, why not have a special hunt…..$10k/tag. Use that money for conservation for the caribou.

Yep lots of people would love to get a bear to eat.

I ran into a fellow that had a pack of trained dogs who would contact say BLM / Forest service and let them know he is available to humanely kill problem bears and they contacted many times for the service. He had to stop when the State no longer allowed dog pack hunting. Now there is a real problem with bears in some spots.

 

[ncsuwolf]

Yep lots of people would love to get a bear to eat.

I ran into a fellow that had a pack of trained dogs who would contact say BLM / Forest service and let them know he is available to humanely kill problem bears and they contacted many times for the service. He had to stop when the State no longer allowed dog pack hunting. Now there is a real problem with bears in some spots.

That’s as about as efficient, and low cost for the state, as you can get

 

[Assembler]

That’s as about as efficient, and low cost for the state, as you can get

Yep and now "It's against the law".

Extremely low costs and very efficient as the guy I don't think he charged a fee to the tax payers?
Even if he did charge a low cost near the end to help transport the dogs and feed that is way less cost anyway you look at it.

 

[Assembler]

Regardless of your opinion of the killing of bears, I disagree with the approach. Africa is a good example of how to make money off animals, while achieving culling/population goals.( They also learned you can take a photo of an animal 100 times living vs once dead). Need to kill off 20 elephants in a certain district…. No problem, 25k/tag and it’s done. Instead of shooting from the air by state employees, why not have a special hunt…..$10k/tag. Use that money for conservation for the caribou.

Well the State is going to claim that shooting from the air is cost effective and there is no need to clean up the animal as nature will take care of that all in a very short time frame.
Plus there is immunity using trained state employee's

 

[DizzyDigger]

Yep lots of people would love to get a bear to eat.

These are grizzly bears, and except for in the most desperate of times they are not considered as table fare. They are usually full of parasites, and are the one animal that Alaska does not require that the meat be preserved.

I do agree, however, that the idea of shooting them from the air just sucks. I know a lot of bowhunters who would love to get a grizzly, and a low cost permit hunt would be far more beneficial.

 

[Assembler]

These are grizzly bears, and except for in the most desperate of times they are not considered as table fare. They are usually full of parasites, and are the one animal that Alaska does not require that the meat be preserved.

I do agree, however, that the idea of shooting them from the air just sucks. I know a lot of bowhunters who would love to get a grizzly, and a low cost permit hunt would be far more beneficial.

Grizzly Bear Meat: Is It Fit for Dinner?​

Can You Eat Grizzly Bear Meat?

Remi Warren and his friend Jeremy Ruesink, cooked steaks from a brown bear and a black bear over a campfire, and ate the meat side by side for comparisons, they agreed the coastal brown tasted better.

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“The interior grizzly, we slow-cooked part of it as a roast, and I found it very similar to black bear, which I eat fairly often. I thought it was good. It was an early fall bear and had some fat on it, and it was fairly mild.”

 

[DizzyDigger]

Grizzly Bear Meat: Is It Fit for Dinner?​

“The interior grizzly, we slow-cooked part of it as a roast, and I found it very similar to black bear, which I eat fairly often. I thought it was good. It was an early fall bear and had some fat on it, and it was fairly mild.”

You go right ahead...I'll pass, thank you.

 

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Well for most it is the hunt of the bear and not the eating.

For some it is eating game meat and not farm raised animal. For some game meat is more in there blood type or health reasons.

For some it can be more of a survival reasons to eat game meat.

 

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AI Overview
The Kodiak Island bear population is estimated at around 3,500 individuals, making it one of the densest bear populations in the world. This subspecies of brown bear, officially known as Ursus arctos middendorffi, is exclusively found on the Kodiak Archipelago. Kodiak bears are known for their large size, with males able to stand over 10 feet tall on their hind legs.

 

[ncsuwolf]

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Never eaten brown bear, but eat black bear regularly. Some of the best meat there is….id argue better than some beef cuts. Way better than deer.

 

[Assembler]

Never eaten brown bear, but eat black bear regularly. Some of the best meat there is….id argue better than some beef cuts. Way better than deer.

Lucky you. I know some who have eaten black bear and say the same. I would think for health reasons that some should eat way more game animals then farm raised.

For some there blood type should help them decide on what meats to eat.
I would love to have some bear in the diet from time to time with other game meats. I have not had black bear meat yet due to the fact of hard to hunt within the law. I have had some sorta bad encounters with some black bears as close as 8 - 16 feet and lucked out with no charging happening for my life. Black bears have the best temperament and are shy in general unless they charge and want to eat then it is bad news. As a young kid had a grizzly bear rip the screen door off of a trailer that I was sleeping in to sniff for food in Glassier Nat. Park. Not very fun.

 

[ncsuwolf]

Lucky you. I know some who have eaten black bear and say the same. I would think for health reasons that some should eat way more game animals then farm raised.

For some there blood type should help them decide on what meats to eat.
I would love to have some bear in the diet from time to time with other game meats. I have not had black bear meat yet due to the fact of hard to hunt within the law. I have had some sorta bad encounters with some black bears as close as 8 - 16 feet and lucked out with no charging happening for my life. Black bears have the best temperament and are shy in general unless they charge and want to eat then it is bad news. As a young kid had a grizzly bear rip the screen door off of a trailer that I was sleeping in to sniff for food in Glassier Nat. Park. Not very fun.

Yeah….not too many grizz in Nc or Va

 

[Assembler]

Yeah….not too many grizz in Nc or Va

Yep the State of Washington is re - introducing grizzly bears in the forests not far from people so what could go wrong??
The State of Oregon does not have grizzly bears and the black bears generally have a good temperament and don't like people in general unless a given bear tastes blood of farm animals / pets. Then that bear is a problem that does not go away.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

Yep the State of Washington is re - introducing grizzly bears in the forests not far from people so what could go wrong??
The State of Oregon does not have grizzly bears and the black bears generally have a good temperament and don't like people in general unless a given bear tastes blood of farm animals / pets. Then that bear is a problem that does not go away.

“The State of Oregon does not have grizzly bears” You don’t have them YET!

Believe it or not, a lone collared grizzly (named “Lonely”) looking for a mate will travel 370 miles into Oregon across the high desert.

The next spring there will be trail camera pictures of some cute cubs. The public will get to look at its path on the internet.

Grizzly bears suddenly repopulate after nearly 100 years.

That’s exactly what happened with Canadian grey wolves in California. “Journey” traveled 4,500 miles and brought his family back. It was incredible. 100 years later when the time was right, they came rushing back into Northern California.

 

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“The State of Oregon does not have grizzly bears” You don’t have them YET!

Believe it or not, a lone collared grizzly (named “Lonely”) looking for a mate will travel 370 miles into Oregon across the high desert.

The next spring there will be trail camera pictures of some cute cubs. The public will get to look at its path on the internet.

Grizzly bears suddenly repopulate after nearly 100 years.

That’s exactly what happened with Canadian grey wolves in California.

This is possible for a few however Oregon's never has had in the past a substantial population of grizzly bears like the State of Washington has had.

Over population in Washington will force bears to move and yes you have a point. There currently is no realistic check on the population of bears and will be more of a problem as time goes forward.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Yep the State of Washington is re - introducing grizzly bears in the forests not far from people so what could go wrong??

Those forests are basically my backyard. The folks here did everything we could to dissuade the gov't from sticking those bears here..we don't want them.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

This is possible for a few however Oregon's never has had in the past a substantial population of grizzly bears like the State of Washington has had.

Over population in Washington will force bears to move and yes you have a point. There currently is no realistic check on the population of bears and will be more of a problem as time goes forward.

I didn’t say anything about problems with keeping them in check.