One Dowsed observation

[dowser]

Your posting in a thread that explains Dowsing tests that prove what I say .

All my tests have to do with, Energy, Frequency, and Vibration, and the Quantum dimension.
They are Observations of My confirmed Dowsing tests results..
Other Dowsers have their own results, some are different, from different abilities.

 

[Carl-NC]

I've tested a number of dowsers, not a single one could do what they thought they could do. They were quite surprised, too. If you want an honest assessment, I can suggest some test methods that are probably a bit more rigid than what you do.

 

[dowser]

It's called Dowsing, and i picked the name Dowser, but I'm using my frequency to read other Frequencies, I'm conjoining my frequency into other frequency lines.. Conjoining!

 

[achanceforgold]

I've tested a number of dowsers, not a single one could do what they thought they could do. They were quite surprised, too. If you want an honest assessment, I can suggest some test methods that are probably a bit more rigid than what you do.

It's okay that you don't believe.
No one is trying to force you to believe.

Others do believe in dowsing.
As some may believe in God or a number of other things.

I personally am interested in the subject and would like more information on what dowsers do and their abilities.

You are not alone in your skepticism. Many people don't believe.

I personally don't believe in Santa Claus. But I don't run around telling people he is not real.
It does me no harm if someone wants to believe in Santa Clause and I allow them to have their beliefs.
Or their beliefs about any subject such as what metal detector is better than others.

A number of members on T-net believe in dowsing.
They have a whole section just for them.
As they have sections for different detectors and many other things.

I am sure every dowser on T-net has faced criticism about dowsing such as yours.
But that doesn't stop their belief in dowsing. And I am positive they are not going to give up dowsing because Carl-NC said it doesn't work.

Please allow them their beliefs without the criticism and attacks.
You will change no one's mind with your approach.

Thanks

 

[Carl-NC]

Not attacking, heck, not even criticizing. Just offering what I know about topics. Take it or leave it. Ferinstance, many dowsers have heard about the Einstein quote but almost none realize it's a fake quote propagated by poorly researched dowsing books.

I've been on these forums for 27 years and have run across a lot of dowsers with a lot of beliefs, and personally met quite a few of them. I have often offered to show them the difference between self-deceptive test methods (which they universally employ) and reasonable protocols that eliminate self-deception. Many dowsers do not want to challenge their own beliefs -- "dowser" is one of them -- and that's OK with me. For the dowsers that want to, I've either personally tested them or offered them protocols they can do on their own to get more realistic results. I've never seen a dowser even come close to doing whatever it is they thought they could do, and they've always been quite surprised at how little of a change in the test protocol eliminates apparent success. And, most of the time, they go right on dowsing. That's fine, too.

Overall, the dowsing forum is no different than any of the other forums; it's a place for open discussion. Yes, I have a skeptical view of dowsing and I'll continue to chime in from time to time, especially when I see something stated that is objectively wrong. I find the topic fun and fascinating. Kinda like Oak Island, it's an interesting study in human psychology.

P.S. -- let me know if you want some realism injected into your own dowsing tests.

 

[achanceforgold]

Not attacking, heck, not even criticizing. Just offering what I know about topics. Take it or leave it. Ferinstance, many dowsers have heard about the Einstein quote but almost none realize it's a fake quote propagated by poorly researched dowsing books.

I've been on these forums for 27 years and have run across a lot of dowsers with a lot of beliefs, and personally met quite a few of them. I have often offered to show them the difference between self-deceptive test methods (which they universally employ) and reasonable protocols that eliminate self-deception. Many dowsers do not want to challenge their own beliefs -- "dowser" is one of them -- and that's OK with me. For the dowsers that want to, I've either personally tested them or offered them protocols they can do on their own to get more realistic results. I've never seen a dowser even come close to doing whatever it is they thought they could do, and they've always been quite surprised at how little of a change in the test protocol eliminates apparent success. And, most of the time, they go right on dowsing. That's fine, too.

Overall, the dowsing forum is no different than any of the other forums; it's a place for open discussion. Yes, I have a skeptical view of dowsing and I'll continue to chime in from time to time, especially when I see something stated that is objectively wrong. I find the topic fun and fascinating. Kinda like Oak Island, it's an interesting study in human psychology.

P.S. -- let me know if you want some realism injected into your own dowsing tests.

May I suggest Stoicism with a good foundation in Christianity.

 

[Carl-NC]

Please explain how I should challenge my beliefs?, I'm confused, I'll admit!

My tagline -- "I believe it, therefore it is true" -- is a warning (even to me) to always challenge everything you think you know, whether in the realm of politics, religion, or treasure hunting. In all these domains there are people who are actively trying to mislead, plus others who simply don't know what the heck they are talking about. Davidson's book, ferinstance, speaks for itself. Very loudly.

Folks who seriously want to hunt for -- and hopefully find -- treasure should probably not waste their time hunting for pretend treasures like Beale or Oak Island. Nor should they use fake treasure hunting devices like long-range locators. Separating these fictions from fact requires critical thinking skills which, sadly, are not taught in school and many people lack. It's something you have to pursue if you want it.

If you simply want to play with dowsing rods and fabricate a reality you believe in, then you have that. Practically every dowser I've known has done the same, and that's all they ever got out of it. If, instead, you want to really know whether your dowsing results are real or self-deception, I can offer some guidance.

 

[Limitool]

Please quit insulting me and my hobby, if you believe Dowsers are misleading people, maybe you should not read it.

Sir when you announce to the world that you can dowse and recognize cancer causing frequencies AND eliminate them that is "OUT THERE".

If your having fun and "learning something" good for you. But you shouldn't get upset when somebody questions your claims or asks how you came about the knowledge of a claim.

 

[robertk]

Can I insult you for no reason, other than you wrote something i can't comprehend?

I didn’t see an insult. And what I’m about to say isn’t an insult either.

The problem isn’t comprehension. The problem is you post lots of outlandish claims that misuse or misunderstand a lot of scientific terminology, and don’t offer any real proof of these claims. Any time you get pressed for proof, you instead offer “reasons” for why you can’t. It’s on somebody else’s property, or the sun was having sunspots that day, or somebody in the next block was using their microwave. It’s always something.

All you ever really post is conjecture. You calling it facts doesn’t make it so. A fact is something that is true to everyone.

Again, this is NOT an insult to you or even to your methods. It is just observation of the content of your posts. You want us to believe and not question — great! Give us real evidence (or a repeatable, verifiable experiment) so that we can do that.

 

[Limitool]

Can I insult you for no reason, other than you wrote something i can't comprehend?
Insult the Dowsing subject, just don't read one post and decide I'm worth insulting.

Who insulted you? Show me the insult?

I posted many Threads on the Dowsing subject, your arguments are uncalled for..

Who's arguing...? D.D. and I both inquired how you came about the knowledge of cancer. That's hardly an argument. We didn't post....

"What I did yesterday! I went over to a friend's house, dowsed a bad energy line, crossing their bed, causing both to have cancer. I located the frequencies on either end of the connection line, and stomped it out of existence."

YOU DID...! How is inquiring how you learned this about cancer arguing.... it's inquiring.

Disagree is one thing, but he's going beyond disagreement with insults..
I knew you'd be defending him, I expected no less!

Who are you talking about here? Carl-NC..? If so where did he insult you? And believe me he doesn't need me to defend him. He can take of himself... that I'm sure of.

 

[Limitool]

Lots of questions, any Dowsing ones?

How did you learn about cancer through dowsing...? Below was posted by you in the dowsing section on your thread.

"What I did yesterday! I went over to a friend's house, dowsed a bad energy line, crossing their bed, causing both to have cancer. I located the frequencies on either end of the connection line, and stomped it out of existence."

 

[Limitool]

You must realize you've asked this before, and I answered.
Do your own homework, look back!

No you never answered THAT question about your dowsing. You skirted all around it but never addressed it. Please enlighten us how you learned about cancer thru dowsing per your post.

 

[Limitool]

I'm the OP of this thread "One Dowsed Observation".
Changing the direction of the topic without any Dowsed observation, is an insult to all the tests and observations I've done.

So you want nobody to respond unless they have a dowsed observation now. A few post ago you said dowsing questions only. So now no questions or inquiries on what you post and only dowsed observations.

 

[Limitool]

He emboldened others.
Now the thread is trashed, might as well shut comments down..

Mr. Dowser.... No your tread isn't trashed. And NO Carl didn't "embolden anybody". But when you publicly post your observations questions and inquires will come in based upon them. You cannot control that what-so-ever. There inquiring and asking questions to learn how you came to this or that conclusion. That doesn't make a soul an anti-dowser.

My question about your cancer dowsing was based off YOUR POSTING. And you NEVER answered it as you stated above. You "skirted" the entire topic. You can't control the conditions in which you'll respond. Any thread has to take the good, bad and ugly all in.

But when someone responds to a post of yours and you don't like it... it doesn't make it go away. Again your thread isn't trashed.... and you can't shut comments down. But when you post something BE PREPARED to explain it. Not bitch and whine about the question or inquiry. Many times it might make you think even deeper and realize something.

 

[Limitool]

Like I posted
I Dowsed a frequency pattern in a divit under my Blueberry bush, that was causing , in my opinion, cell damage, and Cancer, thus killing the plant.
I destroyed the frequency last fall, and here is the Blueberry bush now, all healthy and happy!

See dowser this is what I mean.... I cut & pasted the very post I was referencing in which you just skirted around and never answered. Now you respond about a Blueberry bush.

I was talking about a neighbors home.... Nothing about your blueberry bush. Your post below.

Dowser: "What I did yesterday! I went over to a friend's house, dowsed a bad energy line, crossing their bed, causing both to have cancer. I located the frequencies on either end of the connection line, and stomped it out of existence."

My inquiry / question was never about a blueberry bush. You have NEVER answered or explained how you discovered your cancer knowledge thru dowsing. You've always skirted around an answer and no you haven't answered it as you say. And I'm sure you will ignore again or get mad again.

If you don't want to be questioned then why post such comments about cancer and dowsing?

 

[dowser]

For sincere Dowsers, any questions on all these Dowsed observations of mine, feel free to DM me., you won't be ridiculed there for believing in Dowsing, even if it's different from what I've posted.

 

[achanceforgold]

First, I am not a dowser,
I find it to be a fascinating subject that has been around since ancient times.
I know it was so prevalent that the Catholic church banned it as witchcraft.

It wasn't until late 1600's that it started becoming more open to use for locating water and ore deposits.

I am not sure I fully understand what is going on. If the dowser is somehow influencing the dowsing rods or this is an unknown force that exists. So, I've been keeping an open mind and experimenting in my free time.

Mr. Dowser, the poster of this thread sent us some dowsing rods that he made.
I'm a very skeptical person. But open minded to try things and prove them out.

I tested the rods a few weeks ago using the frequency supplied by Mr. Dowser.
Twice the rods crossed. Once they did not.

Today I again tested the dowsing rods 4 times.
three out of the four times the rods crossed.
the last two test we took a videos

Test 1
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Test 2


Now, I may be unconsciously influencing the movement of the rods with my hands.
I am Definity not trying to do it though.
I want to prove this real or not real to myself.

So, I think if this does work, certain conditions need to be met.
I'm experimenting to see what these conditions are.

Right now, two conditions I am noticing is, afternoon/evening and moist air.
At least for me.

Again, I am unsure if it is me influence the rods with my slight hand movements or if the frequency supplied by Mr. Dowser actually causes this reaction.

 

[dowser]

As the the signal gets weaker, I find a new enhancement way.
I'm back in business for my Dowsing treasure hunt down South, when it cools, if I can afford it.
Would you trade video rights for grubstake?

 

[dowser]

As the the signal gets weaker, I find a new enhancement way.
I'm back in business for my Dowsing treasure hunt down South, when it cools, if I can afford it.
Would you trade video rights for grubstake?

I'm using a 6 inch copper disc, with a galvanized coil, and a 3 inch insulated Copper ring. In the middle of that I have my frequency stone glued down. Any Elements placed on top is enhanced by the stone and coil and disc.
The only problem is, it needs to be directional, because it's a Master that likes to be pointed another Master, in or out, to work the best.
But that's what it takes!, to go all natural, without electronics..

 

[dowser]

I made these wire mesh wrist sleeves, and they definitely help when signal gets week..