One Solution to school shootings

[truckinbutch]

WHY would anyone need an assault weapon anyway..If the mother of the shooter had not had one he would have used something lesser and lives would have been saved. As far as the mental health piece he had a personality disorder..very common among alcoholic and addicts ..people are not locked up for this. I work in mental health field and frankly those that are out on the street and most have county services...are for the most part not a threat due to outpatient help and medication.

Can you even tell me what your definition is of an 'assault weapon'?

 

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[Gold Maven]

To put things in perspective, I read where more people die from falling out of their chair, than do in mass shootings per year in the U.S. Mass shootings were defined as 2 or more at a time.

As I understand it, this shooter used two hand guns to do the killing, and later an assault weapon was found where he gained entry. I know how our government works, and it just seemed a little too convenient to the anti-assault weapon agenda. Legislation will be ready in January to ban assault weapons....this had to be in the works, Congress does not work that fast.

 

[truckinbutch]

We still have the crux of definition of an 'assault weapon'. If the appearance of something scares you ; then , GOD HELP ME! , ya better not look at some of the people shopping at Wallmart .

 

[Red James Cash]

Can you even tell me what your definition is of an 'assault weapon'?

I dont think he's going to answer you Truckin because he doesnt know

 

[Red James Cash]

Bet that population has ways of dealing with firearm violence .

Yeah basically youre dragged into court,automatically found guilty in 5 minutes or less,dragged down into the basement,made to kneel down then youre shot in the back of the head.Your posts sound as though you would like that.

 

[Dano Sverige]

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," per Wayne LaPierre
Don....

Unfortunately with these mass shootings the "good guy" always seems to be in a different state during the event! (A week racking their brains and this is the best the NRA can come up with? Pathetic!)

I recall saying a similar thing the last time one of these mass shootings occured but, of all you concealed carry permit holders out there, how many of you conceal an AR-15? (That's an "assault weapon" TruckinButch, just for your information. )

I wonder what the result would have been had that Chinese knifeman had an assault rifle and 2 handguns instead?

 

[jeff of pa]

[h=1]More on sales

Gun sales up at store in Orwigsburg[/h]ORWIGSBURG - A local gun shop owner said his sales have increased since last week's school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
"If I said it was minimal, I'd be lying" said Josh Shamonsky, owner of Shakey's Gun Shop, 202 E. Market St.
"In all honesty, I probably did more in the past six days (than) what I did in the past three months," he said of his gun sales while standing behind a counter in the shop Friday afternoon.
He said he thought some of that was due to the talk of a possible ban on assault-style weapons.

Of the shooting in Newtown, Shamonsky said it was a tragedy.
"Somebody who does something like that is a monster. They're not a human being," he said.
He doesn't think new laws are the answer.
"If they do more laws, it's only going to be more laws for the criminals to break," he said.
All gun purchases at the store require a background check but the law is slightly different for private sales.
"If you want to sell a rifle or a shotgun you may do that without going through the background check," said Gerald Gerhard, a volunteer at the store.
When selling privately in Pennsylvania, all handguns still need to be transferred through a dealer, who must complete a background check on the new owner. But state law does not require a check for private sales of long guns, like shotguns and rifles, according to a July 29 article in the Scranton Times-Tribune.
"Most people that sell privately know the people or know somebody that knows them and can vouch for them, and that's how it goes,"


Gun sales up at store in Orwigsburg - News - Republican Herald

 

[davest]

well, in line with the OP, I would think that if we are going to arm teachers and give them training, we should also arm the cafeteria staff, the janitors, the bus drivers and the crossing guards. Then we can raise taxes to pay for the training, the firearms and the insurance that will be needed in case someone accidentally shoots someone while teaching, cooking, sweeping,driving and holding up stop signs at intersections.

Can I have the first volunteer?

 

[jeff of pa]

well, in line with the OP, I would think that if we are going to arm teachers and give them training, we should also arm the cafeteria staff, the janitors, the bus drivers and the crossing guards. Then we can raise taxes to pay for the training, the firearms and the insurance that will be needed in case someone accidentally shoots someone while teaching, cooking, sweeping,driving and holding up stop signs at intersections.

Can I have the first volunteer?

I still think they should arm everyone before they enter air planes also.
that way if someone gets suspicious of another passenger,
they can smoke em before the plane takes off

(I said with plenty of sarcasm intended)

 

[redtailvision]

a lot of interesting views. Here is mine. No one "needs" an assault weapon. But don't they have the right to own them for their collection? I think so. I have two brothers who collect guns and they both have some because they enjoy having them and shooting them at the range. I prefer bows. And I can tell you in the hands of a criminal a compound crossbow could be very deadly. Should they be banned also? Banning any weapon will only ban them from those who follow the law. 7 of my family members have cc and carry wherever they are allowed. These shootings seem to happen at "soft" targets such as malls, theaters and schools because the perp's know guns are not allowed. If those with cc were allowed to carry in those locations I don't think the shooters would have gotten very far and it just might deter them from those places knowing as soon as they pull the trigger, they will have a bullet coming at them.

 

[Gold Maven]

If we banned everything we didn't need, we wouldn't have much left.

I've often wondered why new vehicles that can double the maximum legal speed limit are legal. They could easily be governed to legal speed, but they aren't, how many innocent people are killed by speeders?

 

[Red James Cash]

Can I have the first volunteer

I'll train them for free.

 

[jeff of pa]

If we banned everything we didn't need, we wouldn't have much left.

I've often wondered why new vehicles that can double the maximum legal speed limit are legal. They could easily be legal speed, but they aren't, how many innocent people are killed by speeders?

there is a reason for this.

a car governed to legal speed of 55 MPH on a California highway, or
desert road to even 75MPH

I Believe would never make it to the top of a Mountain in Colorodo.
& if it would you would have to start a day early

so cars would need to be governed by location they were going to be used,
& everyone who travels would either need several cars stationed nationwide or
get exempted from following the law.

of course a vehicle that goes 140 MPH doesn't quite sound necessary though

 

[davest]

I'll train them for free.

but will you insure them for free too?

 

[Moonrover]

Has anyone yet mentioned or even considered banning violent training videos? You know the kind; kids grow up being trained on violent video games. They see killing (taking a human life) as a sport, entertainment that has no consequences, only the reward of gaining a "high score". I'm far from an expert on the educational process of young children but I did read an article that claimed that by age five, the child has established a permanent attitude for his/her future learning process. Do little five year olds get exposure to violent oriented video games? I think ... yes. We live in a society that encourages violence.

I'm waiting to see what the recently appointed "gun control" committee (headed by VP Biden) will come up with that will solve anything.

 

[jeff of pa]

Has anyone yet mentioned or even considered banning violent training videos? You know the kind; kids grow up being trained on violent video games. They see killing (taking a human life) as a sport, entertainment that has no consequences, only the reward of gaining a "high score". I'm far from an expert on the educational process of young children but I did read an article that claimed that by age five, the child has established a permanent attitude for his/her future learning process. Do little five year olds get exposure to violent oriented video games? I think ... yes. We live in a society that encourages violence.

I'm waiting to see what the recently appointed "gun control" committee (headed by VP Biden) will come up with that will solve anything.

Not me. I would have a hard time supporting a nationwide Ban on anything. even things I hate, except maybe I could support a ban on bans. but
even local bans bother me. I guess because I grew up being taught in school this was a free country & police states are wrong?

 

[squiggy]

Not me. I would have a hard time supporting a nationwide Ban on anything.
even local bans bother me. I guess because I grew up being taught in school this was a free country ?

Me too, except assault weapons....

 

[Red James Cash]

Me too, except assault weapons

whats your definition of an assault weapon.A butter knife can be an assault weapon

 

[Red James Cash]

but will you insure them for free too?

Sorry i would just train them,insurance is the trainees responsibility,or would you want me to pay for their firearms too.

 

[squiggy]

whats your definition of an assault weapon.A butter knife can be an assault weapon

I think rather than getting into that kind of discussion I would just like to say that I am a very self sufficient woman who lives off the grid and that our views on people's rights are probably very close....I respect your views without a need to change them and I hope it will be mutual