🏴‍☠️ Need coin I.D. old copper coin. It’s definitely NOT U.S.

[☠️🏴☠️SCOLINO🏴☠️☠️]

Diameter- 27.04 mm
Thickness - 1.98 mm
Weight - 7.8 grams

 

[sibbley]

Looks like a right facing bust and did I spy Britania in the last pic?

 

[☠️🏴☠️SCOLINO🏴☠️☠️]

Looks like a right facing bust and did I spy Britania in the last pic?

Yes Britannia is on the back and it’s right facing. But what could it be?

 

[sibbley]

Yes Britannia is on the back and it’s right facing. But what could it be?

I'm thinking a British Half Penny. A King George, but not sure which.

 

[☠️🏴☠️SCOLINO🏴☠️☠️]

I'm thinking a British Half Penny. A King George, but not sure which.

Originally, I was thinking, KG I. But after I took some measurements and weighed the coin that ruled that out.

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

What was the weight? The bust facing that way and Britannia facing the way she is. I thought a Cartwheel Penny. The weight might say nope.

 

[l.cutler]

King George III, real or counterfeit, or one of the Connecticut or Vermont state coppers that used a similar design.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

A great find !

 

[Digger RJ]

Diameter- 27.04 mm
Thickness - 1.98 mm
Weight - 7.8 grams

Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

I'm sorry if I missed the weight and dimensions last night. I was looking at the British coins for the same way the Monarch and Britannia were facing and the KGIII Cartwheel matched up.

 

[Digginitdaily]

Diameter- 27.04 mm
Thickness - 1.98 mm
Weight - 7.8 grams

It's a farthing . I don't remember her name but I think she was a queen and this coin was modeled after her elderly self . Her arm is sticking out and up and she's holding what looks like a wheel with the other one. Google colonial copper coins and you'll find it. It was used by the British in the US before the colonies started producing their own coinage.

 

[Digginitdaily]

It's a farthing . I don't remember her name but I think she was a queen and this coin was modeled after her elderly self . Her arm is sticking out and up and she's holding what looks like a wheel with the other one. Google colonial copper coins and you'll find it. It was used by the British in the US before the colonies started producing their own coinage.

Weight Ranges of Regal British Coppers

From Coins of Colonial and Early America, an exhibit of over 250 items from Massachusetts silver to the provisional half disme of 1792. Features high-resolution images and detailed descriptions.

coins.nd.edu

 

[l.cutler]

It's a farthing . I don't remember her name but I think she was a queen and this coin was modeled after her elderly self . Her arm is sticking out and up and she's holding what looks like a wheel with the other one. Google colonial copper coins and you'll find it. It was used by the British in the US before the colonies started producing their own coinage.

Too large and heavy to be a farthing. Farthings were maximum weight of a little over 5 grams, and 24.5 mm diameter. This coin is 7.8 grams and 27.04 mm diameter. It is a George III halfpenny, real or counterfeit, or one of the state coppers with a similar design. The Connecticut and Vermont coppers copied the design pretty closely.

 

[Digginitdaily]

Too large and heavy to be a farthing. Farthings were maximum weight of a little over 5 grams, and 24.5 mm diameter. This coin is 7.8 grams and 27.04 mm diameter. It is a George III halfpenny, real or counterfeit, or one of the state coppers with a similar design. The Connecticut and Vermont coppers copied the design pretty closely.

I stand corrected lol

 

[Digginitdaily]

I stand corrected lol

When you say Vermont and Connecticut copied them closely do you mean the design and or weight? When the coinage act came into play in the US would the remaining british coins just become obsolete or were they restruck with united states ?

 

[l.cutler]

When you say Vermont and Connecticut copied them closely do you mean the design and or weight? When the coinage act came into play in the US would the remaining british coins just become obsolete or were they restruck with united states ?

The design and weight were copied most likely because these were the most common coins in circulation and most familiar to the public. The Connecticut and Vermont coins were made by private contractors, as well as some unauthorized minters, so the weight was often cheated to make more profit for the coiners. The British and state coppers did become obsolete but not right away, it took quite a few years before there were enough US coins in circulation to drive them out. The new US coins were held to a pretty strict weight standard so the older coins were not overstruck by US dies. There were some instances though, when planchets were hard to come by that tokens were recut into half cent planchets, but the weight standard was still kept.

 

[Gare]

Nice find