Please help with ID

[Kansas]

I found 3 of these in a box of old jewelry and trinkets. I wanted to run them past you guys to make sure they were not just junk.
The item is 2 and 1/2 inches long by 1 and 3/4 wide. It weighed .8 oz on my scale. It seems to be made of 2 metals. I am guessing the arms part is brass and I am unsure of the other part. The piece on the back, that looks like a belt loop, looks like maybe nickel plated brass as does the ring on the bottom.
Any info as to a keeper or a tosser will be appreciated.
Thanks,
~KANSAS~

 

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[traderoftreasures]

similar to item i recently had look under old masonic templar belt sword holder or something similar.

 

[doublet2a]

Sure it's not Gold and Silver


Tim

 

[traderoftreasures]

keeper...... or toss it my way

 

[Tony in SC]

If that gold colored metal wasn't tarnished when you found it, it is probably "GOLD". I'll go with sword hanger also. Tony

 

[Kansas]

Thanks for the help guys !
Now you have me thinking. The bright metal was not tarnished, unlike anything else in the box. I better have it checked out, but finding gold just doesnt seem to be my luck.

Thanks again for the help.

~KANSAS~

 

[Gypsy Heart]

For some reason it reminds me of Saint Joan of Arc

 

[shaun7]

looks like gold to me

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Definitely a keeper. I also agree that it looks like gold. Can you seperate it or look for markings on the back?

It reminds me of a Masonic belt sword holder but my guess is the Order of Knights of Pythias. I recognize the crossed battle axes but what is that other weapon with the sword handle?

I cant find a match online but I think it is Knights of Pythias; something like this; it would slip on a belt. The loop on the bottom could be for the chain.

 

[Kansas]

It reminds me of a Masonic belt sword holder but my guess is the Order of Knights of Pythias. I recognize the crossed battle axes but what is that other weapon with the sword handle?

Bigcypresshunter I am with you. I can not figure out what is on the sword.

It doesn't look like I can separate it from the backing.

I checked Masonic, Odd Fellows, and Pythias last night until I was cross-eyed and couldn't find anything like it. The armore vest and the strange sword just doesn't show up in anything I looked at.

Gypsy Heart said:

For some reason it reminds me of Saint Joan of Arc

and after looking close to vest I think she may be on to something. I am not real familiar with types of armore, but it does seem to have a female form.

Thanks again to you and everyone who have helped on this. I am going to keep looking.

 

[traderoftreasures]

here is something similar i just sold on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&item=320373366722

 

[IronSpike]

here is something similar i just sold on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&item=320373366722

any chance it is a trumpet?

Agree trumpet or end of a musket with wide mouth.

 

[Kansas]

I guess it could be a trumpet or a gun. I am taking all suggestions at this point account I have no idea what it could be. It does look like a sword handle on the other end though.
Thanks for the ideas !

 

[lostcauses]

Agreed with the most likely gold and silver. The finish work is great and took some time to do it. Not scrap. good stuff. Did you find any chains that could attach to this??

 

[Gypsy Heart]

The first known military order of women knights was the Order of the Hatchet, founded in Catalonia in 1149 by Raymond Berenger, count of Barcelona, it died out during the lifetime of its original members. It was organized to honor the women who defended the town of Tortosa against an attack by the Moors. A similar story comes down to us of a woman named Jeanne Hachette, who fought to repel a Burgundian assault on the town of Beauvais in 1472. Some historians think the hatchet symbolism came from her name, even though her story is dated 320 years after the Order of the Hatchet was created.

The hatchet itself has become a symbol for feminism, though because of its “violent” aspects, feminists per se have dropped its symbolic use, while lesbians have made it a pride symbol. The symbol is known as the labrys, from the word labia, because of its lip-like shape.

 

[Kansas]

Texastea ... Thanks for checking. I have no background on who owned this stuff.

Lostcauses ... There was a chain in the box, but I don't know if it went with it. There was many odd ball pieces.

Gypsy Heart ... Thanks for the lead. Maybe I can find something from there.

 

[Kansas]

I think I have found what the horizontal sword is. I believe it might be what is called a "Blade Breaker".
http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm57.pl?f=NR&c=76153&t=temartic_A_D&db=kat57_a.txt

How this info will help me ID this piece I have no idea......

 

[Kansas]

Texastee ... here is pretty much what was in the box. The item at the bottom of the photo is a shirt cuff clip that you guys IDed for me a while back. The 8 items above the sword belt holder are leather tassels. The 2 round items towards the top left are pins with a retractable chain in them. The bracelet has a tag that has a heart on it and says "Desert Heart. The item in the bottom right cornor with the compass may not have come out of the box, but I am pretty sure it did, I had it set aside for some unknown reason.

I forgot to put anything in for scale, but the sword belt holders are 2 and 1/2 inches tall.
Hope this helps.

Thanks
~KANSAS~

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Very nice "junkbox" items.

 

[traderoftreasures]

this is all masonic