✅ SOLVED Posting a coin for a friend

[RelicHunter97]

Hi all, I have this coin here which my cousin and I have been trying to identify for years. It is copper, roughly the size of a US Nickel, and it features a crown over an unidentified design, and I can make out the word ENGLAND beginning at 7:00 and ending around 10:00. I'm thinking it may be some sort of token rather than a coin? I don't know, but I would love to see it solved.

 

[Mackaydon]

Reminds me of a Gettone telephone tester's token (Italian)
Don........

 

[jeff of pa]

I can see the Letters NG the L cold be an NGL or an NGR NGI in My eyes.

I don't know which way is the Top ?












also I take it the reverse is Plain ?
I only see pics from one side

 

[RelicHunter97]

Hi! The NG? you are seeing is part of ENGLAND (I can see it very clear with my eyes - it does not come across well in the photos, but it definitely says ENGLAND). The first picture, with the bend in the coin running in the same direction of a slash "/", shows it with the crown on top, and ENGLAND beginning at 7:00. As for the reverse, I see I didn't put a picture up. I see what may be leaves, as well as the word UNITED on the edge. Whether this is part of UNITED KINGDOM or something else, I do not know at this time. I'll try to take some natural light photos tomorrow.

 

[jeff of pa]

I'd have to Guess Token Then.

I know of no Old coins with the word England on them.

I think it would say BRITANNIA for England

I'll do some looking though.
I don't know every coin out there

 

[jeff of pa]

not Yours But may have a starting point
[h=1]1812 British Naval Copper Halfpenny Token Error Nelson - Obverse[/h]

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[RelicHunter97]

I was thinking token too.
And could it be true, you don't know EVERY coin?
To be quite honest, I am very surprised.

There is no bust on either side, and I still cannot figure out what the HECK is under the crown!

 

[ivan salis]

COULD BE A ENGLISH TELEPHONE TOKEN -- European phone tokens in the 1980's or so had the odd crease made into them to fit into the special phone booths --this was done to prevent folks from using regular "low value" as slugs of a sort ...these specialized tokens fit in the machine's slot --the phone tokens were of a "set" value of so many for so much hlocal cash value and you got so much time per token .

I remember using ones marked "GETTONE"...THEY WERE MADE OF COPPER OR BRONZE AND HAD A GROOVE IN THEM

 

[Bramblefind]

Maybe this?

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=499&lot=78

Union of England and Ireland. Æ 20. 2.54 gm. Hands clasped; ENGLAND AND IRELAND UNITED 1801 around; signed by Kettle / Thistle and a rose on the same stem; PROSPERITY TO THE UNITED KINGDOMS around. BHM 528 (RR). Mitchiner 6179. Good Very Fine; glossy brown patina. Very rare.The Act of Union became law on 1 January 1801.

 

[RelicHunter97]

Amazing! That's definitely it! The crown, the thing under the crown (clasped hands!), the words ENGLAND and UNITED, the leaves, wow! That's so cool! Thank you Bramblefind!

 

[Iron Patch]

Next!

 

[RelicHunter97]

And now that I know what to look for I can read more of the words, such as "1801," and the PRO in PROSPERITY

 

[Iron Patch]

And now that I know what to look for I can read more of the words, such as "1801," and the PRO in PROSPERITY

That's usually how it goes... if you have something to look for, you can usually see more.

 

[kingskid1611]

I'm curious how it got creased as perfect as it did.

 

[ivan salis]

DANG SOLVED ..AFTER ALL THESE YEARS ...GOOD JOB IRON PATCH..

 

[ivan salis]

SOMETIMES IN DAYS OF OLD FOLKS "BENT" MONEY OR TOKENS AS A "LOVE GIFT" SO THAT IT WOULD NOT BE SPENT OR TRADED --BUT INSTEAD CARRIED IN MEMORY OF THEM WHILE AWAY FROM THE LOVED ONE THAT GAVE IT TO THEM

 

[RelicHunter97]

Yeah I've heard of that! My cousin has a couple old coppers we think that may have happened to. I don't know if that's the case here, or if it got bent some other way.

 

[pepperj]

I'm curious how it got creased as perfect as it did.

Taco'd by a disc

 

[Iron Patch]

DANG SOLVED ..AFTER ALL THESE YEARS ...GOOD JOB IRON PATCH..

Wasn't me who solved it but I will gladly accept the check.

 

[RelicHunter97]

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