Recent Finds - Is This A Butt Plate?

[Valley Ranger]

I've been out a few times recently for some short hunts. I'm still trying to get the hang of the T2SE, but it's coming. I'm quite impressed with the 5" coil. Here's a few of my finds . . . part of an old hand bell (I think), an old bullet, and a 1939 Merc. Also, part of a child's cowboy toy, an old picture locket (its a little larger than a silver dollar), an old plate, part of an old iron spoon, and something that looks like a butt plate.

On the bullet - its .50 caliber and just under 1.4 inches long. It was found near a CW battlefield. I can't ID it - any help? Also, is this iron piece a butt plate? I found it on a farm that supposedly had a Confederate camp. It's about the right size, but only one screw hole. Also has a slight indentation cut in one side in the middle along part of the length - any ID help on that? The old locket was found at the same location, as was the psychedelic plate.
The spoon was also found near some CW action. Looks to be iron and responded well to electrolysis. It has a "WB" mark on the back. I think I read somewhere these were counterfeit silver and manufactured in England circa 1800.

Any ID help would be appreciated.

 

[jamesbibb]

You bullet is a 50-70 the early big brother to the 45-70. Mostly post war but likely saw some action at the very end of 65. The butt plate is probly an implemtent part. most buttplates are brass and have 2 smaller attatchment points.

 

[worldtalker]

Old Stonewall,That's some mighty fine pickins ya got there!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS,bout time to wash the backdrop. God Bless HH Chris

 

[Valley Ranger]

You bullet is a 50-70 the early big brother to the 45-70. Mostly post war but likely saw some action at the very end of 65. The butt plate is probly an implemtent part. most buttplates are brass and have 2 smaller attatchment points.

Thanks for the bullet ID James! I kinda thought this might be the case on the "butt plate", though I did find a very nice iron one recently, apparently from an 1841 Springfield musket.

 

[Valley Ranger]

Old Stonewall,That's some mighty fine pickins ya got there!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS,bout time to wash the backdrop. God Bless HH Chris

Gee whiz, you sound like my wife.

Thanks!

 

[NOLA_Ken]

There were a lot of guns with iron butt plates, I'm not sure that's what you have though just based on the size of the hole in it, it would take a massive screw to attach it.

 

[Whitebeard]

I agree with jamesbibb, if it was a butplate and you added the missing part it would be to long and to wide.

 

[VOL1266-X]

Nice assortment of finds Richard. I really believe you will unearth something very rare before Christmas. I am in total agreement with James and WB on the buttplate. HH, Quindy.

 

[Lanny in AB]

Sweet!

All the best,

Lanny

 

[s.c.shooter]

Stonewall,I don't know what that is either but I found 2 of them exactly like that about 10 feet apart last week. I'd be interested if anyone could identify them too.

 

[ModernMiner]

Old Stonewall,That's some mighty fine pickins ya got there!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS,bout time to wash the backdrop. God Bless HH Chris

Gee whiz, you sound like my wife.

Thanks!

LMAO! Good one.
Congrats on the recoveries OS.
I would have thought buttplate too.
-MM-

 

[Tecumseh]

I found one of those "butt plates" in my backyard a couple of years ago. I was told that it was a tooth from an early 1900's farm machine, used to cut rows for planting.


ETA: Here's a modern version: http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u12/kgoodlo/DSC00351Medium.jpg

 

[johnnyblaze]

Nice variety there



Blaze

 

[Valley Ranger]

Thanks everyone for the input. Quindy - I like your prophecy! I did go out Saturday for a couple hours - nothing earth shattering. Dug a fired .69 caliber CW bullet, an 1887 IH, and a WWI cuff button. I've had worse days.

 

[Irregular]

No comments on the "headless horseman"? I'd consider that a find-and-a-half, and an interesting item to research and date. It reminds me of a couple of scenes from The Patriot, grossly improper sound effects and all.

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Nice stuff ,does it look similar it could be the top piece of a Springfield iron butt plate . 8) dawg

 

[Valley Ranger]

No comments on the "headless horseman"? I'd consider that a find-and-a-half, and an interesting item to research and date. It reminds me of a couple of scenes from The Patriot, grossly improper sound effects and all.

Looks like a Redcoat - properly dispatched!

 

[Valley Ranger]

Nice stuff ,does it look similar it could be the top piece of a Springfield iron butt plate . 8) dawg

Not sure. I'll take it to a show sometime if I can't get a positive ID - thanks for the tip though.