Au_Dreamers
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bobinsd,
None of the 1715 wreck sites have been positively identified...
Some of the early modern salvors couldn't agree upon which site is which. What's that expression... ask 4 salvors which is which and you'll get 5 scenarios, Heck I've even got 3 or 4 myself. It's been considered to be The Nieves, Echeverz's Capitana, Concepcion,Urca De Lima, San Cristoval...
The recent gold find is a north area of the "Douglas Beach" wreck site. It is not believed to be a different wreck site.
John Brandon will tell you that these are ship wrecks not sunken ships, the key word being wreck. These sites have acres and acres along miles of beach front that they are scattered over.
In many cases cannon can be used to help identify a wreck site but with these it will be highly unlikely.
Firstly some of these ships had multi-national ownership through time and cannon were swapped out or in as the last voyage needed. The research would have to be from outbound Havana on the cannon count.
This also has cannon from different countries on a single ship. So the proverbial finding a broad arrow to determine a "British" ship doesn't apply.
Secondly locals and some not local here on the "treasure coast" have been pulling cannon off these wrecks since the 1920's. They've also pulled ballast. The story also goes that with the world war efforts cannon were pulled off the bottom all over Florida, so we may never get accurate cannon count on these sites.
But in there is the fun of the 1715 Fleet mystery!!!
Again all we DO know is that we have the
Cabin wreck
Corrigan's wreck
Rio Mar wreck
Sandy Point wreck
Wedge wreck
Douglas Beach wreck
Any naming or placing of ships to a particular site is just theory.
**Internet disclaimer of tone**
No intentions to insult anyone was made with this post. I encourage anyone to research the 1715 fleet to find clues to it's mysteries.
I just wanted to post facts, not theories. I'm not saying theories are bad I have a few of my own but for those seeking information sometimes starting with a clean slate can be better than with a jumble of theories.
Cheers HH
None of the 1715 wreck sites have been positively identified...
Some of the early modern salvors couldn't agree upon which site is which. What's that expression... ask 4 salvors which is which and you'll get 5 scenarios, Heck I've even got 3 or 4 myself. It's been considered to be The Nieves, Echeverz's Capitana, Concepcion,Urca De Lima, San Cristoval...
The recent gold find is a north area of the "Douglas Beach" wreck site. It is not believed to be a different wreck site.
John Brandon will tell you that these are ship wrecks not sunken ships, the key word being wreck. These sites have acres and acres along miles of beach front that they are scattered over.
In many cases cannon can be used to help identify a wreck site but with these it will be highly unlikely.
Firstly some of these ships had multi-national ownership through time and cannon were swapped out or in as the last voyage needed. The research would have to be from outbound Havana on the cannon count.
This also has cannon from different countries on a single ship. So the proverbial finding a broad arrow to determine a "British" ship doesn't apply.
Secondly locals and some not local here on the "treasure coast" have been pulling cannon off these wrecks since the 1920's. They've also pulled ballast. The story also goes that with the world war efforts cannon were pulled off the bottom all over Florida, so we may never get accurate cannon count on these sites.
But in there is the fun of the 1715 Fleet mystery!!!
Again all we DO know is that we have the
Cabin wreck
Corrigan's wreck
Rio Mar wreck
Sandy Point wreck
Wedge wreck
Douglas Beach wreck
Any naming or placing of ships to a particular site is just theory.
**Internet disclaimer of tone**
No intentions to insult anyone was made with this post. I encourage anyone to research the 1715 fleet to find clues to it's mysteries.
I just wanted to post facts, not theories. I'm not saying theories are bad I have a few of my own but for those seeking information sometimes starting with a clean slate can be better than with a jumble of theories.
Cheers HH
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