What's new

✅ SOLVED Reproduction or the real deal?

pepperj

Diamond Member
🥇 Charter Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2009
Messages
52,234
Reaction score
207,047
Golden Thread
1
Location
Eastern Ontario Canada
🥇 Banner finds
1
Detector(s) used
Deus, Deus 2, Minelab 3030, E-Trac,
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
It's listed on an auction site. Thinking about getting it maybe.
Screenshot_20260201_160754_Samsung Internet.webp
Screenshot_20260201_160730_Samsung Internet.webp
Screenshot_20260201_160749_Samsung Internet.webp
Screenshot_20260201_160736_Samsung Internet.webp


 
That etching imo is recently done. I'm thinking was done with an electric vibrating etching pen.
 

Attachments

  • shopping.webp
    shopping.webp
    11.8 KB · Views: 53
Upvote 0
Nice. It looks like an authentic 1800s Scottish ‘shaft and globe’ bottle to me, and I believe the engraving to be original. These kinds of bottles were ‘chip-engraved’ by progressively removing tiny fragments of glass with a sharp tool or small grinding wheel, producing a very distinctive appearance. Like these:

Shaft & G;lobe.webp


Did you find a wine or spirits merchant named Alexander Sword from that period? I did a quick Google, but nothing came up. Could have been someone quite small or short-lived though.
 
Upvote 0
Nice. It looks like an authentic 1800s Scottish ‘shaft and globe’ bottle to me, and I believe the engraving to be original. These kinds of bottles were ‘chip-engraved’ by progressively removing tiny fragments of glass with a sharp tool or small grinding wheel, producing a very distinctive appearance. Like these:

View attachment 2243031

Did you find a wine or spirits merchant named Alexander Sword from that period? I did a quick Google, but nothing came up. Could have been someone quite small or short-lived though.
Coming from you sounds good to me. I know very little if anything about things like this. I just become suspicious when I think. How could I make etchings like it on an unbroken almost 190 year old glass bottle. Go for Pepperj.
 
Upvote 0
Very nice looking bottle. As Red-Coat said, not a lot on Alexander Sword. It does have that chipped engraving look that RC mentioned. I would buy it based on what RC posted.

Screenshot 2026-02-01 5.58.38 PM.webp
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
I believe ‘Alexander Sword’ would be the name of someone in the wines & spirits trade, and nothing to do with Alexander the Great. That’s what the names on these bottle usually represent.

I haven’t searched extensively in trade directories, but there was a Sword (with spelling variants of Sworde) family in Falkirk, Scotland who were prominent and influential business and property owners dating back to late 1700s. An Alexander Sword acquired land in Mungal (within the parish of Falkirk) in 1783. There he had a family home built (Mungalhead House), adjacent to a brewhouse which he ran, as well as farming the land. For some reason, the family never lived in the house; he rented it out and lived in the farmhouse. Among the family there was also an Andrew Sword(e), described as a farmer and a brewer. He married the widower Isabella Risk in 1819 and consequently became owner of the Crown Inn in Falkirk High Street that had belonged to Isabella’s first husband.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
That etching imo is recently done. I'm thinking was done with an electric vibrating etching pen.
This is a shot glass I engraved with a vibrating electric engraver. It’s easy to do but has a different look than the bottle.
IMG_2457.webp
 
Upvote 0
Upvote 0
The disc pontil scar on the bottom is proper for the date on the bottle. Could be a Tavern bottle, or the name could be of the prominent customer the spirit was made for, similar to the glass seals that were applied to bottles 100 years earlier.
 
Upvote 0
GREAT Job ALL!!!
 
Upvote 0
Upvote 0
Gotta love the picture of the guy barley holding the bottle over a stone floor.
 
Upvote 0
Site said it sold for 95 bucks. Were you the buyer in the end?
The 9 part scared me off. :laughing7:
I have seen this one before in my travels, I think it sold some years back and I was leery of it then.
 
Upvote 0

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top Bottom