Rimfire cartridge ?

[fyrffytr1]

I also found this rimfire base yesterday and was wondering what firearm it would have been used in? It is about 44cal. and about 1" long.

 

[trixie charger]

I'm thinking Colt 45 ammo, the Antique version

 

[timekiller]

Maybe a old .44 Henry.
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Pete,


.44 Henry

.44 Henry cartridges
Type Rifle/Pistol
Place of origin United States
Production history
Designer New Haven Arms Company
Designed 1860[1]
Specifications
Case type rimmed
Bullet diameter .446 in (11.3 mm)
Neck diameter .434 in (11.0 mm)
Base diameter .441 in (11.2 mm)
Rim diameter .518 in (13.2 mm)
Rim thickness .062 in (1.6 mm)
Case length .903 in (22.9 mm)
Overall length 1.345 in (34.2 mm)
Primer type Rimfire

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Im not a bullet guy but wouldnt there be a mark on the rim if it was fired?
Second question- could it be one of the pinfire varieties?

 

[timekiller]

Im not a bullet guy but wouldnt there be a mark on the rim if it was fired?
Second question- could it be one of the pinfire varieties?

1) question yes
2) not that I know of as there is clearly a rim

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I noticed the rim. I dont know if all pinfires are rimless. But all pinfires have a pin so if there is no place for a pin then the rim/rimless matter is irrevellant. 8) Maybe only shotgun pinfires have rims.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Here are some more pictures. In the first one you can see the firing mark at the 3 O'clock position.
The next one is the base diameter amd the last is an average of the casing diameter. It ranged from .41-.46. It easy to see that the casing is very deformed so a true measurement is impossible.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Looks like the Henry. For some reason I was looking at the larger shell in the first pic. :P

 

[timekiller]

Looks like I see a faint letter H which would go well for the henry.(H Winchester Repeating Arms Co., New Haven (Connecticut). )
http://www.municion.org/44Henry/Long.htm

Also just was wondering if you were in this neck of Georgia?

Description Dug Henry .44 cartridge. It had broken in half but was repaired by the digger. The letter 'H' is stamped in the base of the shell casing. Very nice relic in spite of the repair job. Dug New Hope Church Battlefield, Georgia.

 

[zztop357]

There is something written at the bottom right a round the edge of the rim.... It looks like a B_ _ _ _ _ y. If you zoom in you can see it below where the firing pin struck.

 

[trixie charger]

Ok, I was wrong on the 45. I agree with the Henry 44. The second from the left is a Henry 44 before they marked them on the butt's.
These came from actual period Full boxes of Ammo.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Looks like I see a faint letter H which would go well for the henry.(H Winchester Repeating Arms Co., New Haven (Connecticut). )
http://www.municion.org/44Henry/Long.htm

Also just was wondering if you were in this neck of Georgia?

Description Dug Henry .44 cartridge. It had broken in half but was repaired by the digger. The letter 'H' is stamped in the base of the shell casing. Very nice relic in spite of the repair job. Dug New Hope Church Battlefield, Georgia.

New Hope is outside of Atlanta. I am about 175 miles southwest.

 

[botay]

i thought henery's had two firing pins, would have left two marks. the spencer carbine also used rimfire ammo.

 

[timekiller]

i thought henery's had two firing pins, would have left two marks. the spencer carbine also used rimfire ammo.

Very good point, And one I over looked. The truth is there was alot of .44 cal rimfire guns.After looking into it more yours looks Hammered struck to me.Not fire pin struck I don't think.It looks hit like these pic. here with a Colt .44 Rimfire Single Action Army Revolver,or the spencer.Just some Ideas.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Timekiller, I have examined this base closely and there is no "H" on it.
ZZtop357, there is no lettering around the edge.
Thanks for all the replies. I feel good about the Colt ID so, I am giving this one a green check.