Season 12

[GravelTeeth]

And they have known about a circulating treasure map starting the search since 2014

More with your map fetish. You've piped up multiple times with this silliness in all these threads, so by now we all are aware of your allegation. And yet ... we still find the Oak Island history and mystery intriguing enough to discuss. Your premise is proven false, even on such a small sampling. There's no reason to think that the results would be any different on a larger scale.

--GT

 

[chalkoutline]

What constitutes a "flood tunnel" VS ground water...? I thought flood tunnels were long gone. Caverns filled with ground water are probably all around. Blocking off a "flood tunnel" is one thing.... but stopping a cavern filled with ground water is a problem.

Just going by what said the water changed from freshwater they could pump to massive amounts of salt water they couldn't.

But you are right I don't that it was a flood tunnel. They breached something to cause the water change which im suggesting they drop a can nearby and try to stop it.

 

[Carl-NC]

Just going by what said the water changed from freshwater they could pump to massive amounts of salt water they couldn't.

Oak Island hydrology generally consists of a fresh water lens sitting atop denser salt water. So it makes perfect sense that once they breached the aquifer, it would start as freshwater but once that was pumped out it was replaced with an infinite amount of salt water.

 

[SSR]

Source(s)? Pretty please?


What does this mean in practical terms to you? Do you not believe there was an Onslow company nor any of its search results? How then is the documentation for Truro not full of them finding contradictions to that narrative? How did they even know where to start work? I'm not sure what the significance is of the lack of corroborating documentation.

--GT

Richard Smith and John Gifford, merchants from NY, were granted a fishing license and operated out of what was called Smith's cove. There's not much known about it. What is known is that it did not last beyond 1758 or 59. It had became impossible to do commerce in the vicinity of Lunenburg, because native raids were leading to the slaughter of the colonials. The problem was not "solved" until the Treaty of Peace was imposed on the natives in 1760. Oak Island was subsequently included in a planned township that was surveyed in 1762 by Charles Morris. When Morris had charted the Bay in 1751 there was nothing a OI. The French Acadian village of Mirligueche was located on the opposing mainland.

The existence of searchers is not in doubt. The Onslow company operated in 1849-51. We don' know what drew them there. We know of Thomas Halliburton's written work of 1847 that seems to profess what is coming. We know alleged events at Hobson's Nose in 1830 produced some of the detail found in the OI backstory. What is to be questioned is the backstory which is not documented, yet insisted upon. English colonial settler events at OI go back to 1762. There isn't a missing 33 empty years there which is often called a pre searcher or depositor period. That so many things come and align with the survey of 1762 is a serious problem to those who think they are offered a geometric mystery/puzzle. After 1762 there was obviously no major dig project that occurred on that island which could have been "concealed". Those who insist there's a concealed burial there which is part of a puzzle are hanging their hats on Charles Morris executing it in the year 1762-63 (even if they don' t realize it). Nolan suspected Morris, because he was a surveyor.

If there was even a clearing with a depression in it in 1795 then you have only a limited period you can imagine your clearing to have been there before it grew in again. Smith bought (in 1795) that land from Wollenhaupt who was using that end of the island prior to 1795. Smith had resided on a nearby lot since 1784. It is probable he even worked for Wollenhaupt on the land in question and used his wages to purchase it with. There are no three boys taking a jaunt to an island where they discover something hanging from a tree. We are left with allegations of a treasure pit on land belonging to one of the alleged discoverers which happens to be dressed in recognizable motifs.

 

[GravelTeeth]

Richard Smith and John Gifford, merchants from NY, were granted a fishing license and operated out of what was called Smith's cove.

I guess it's great that you want to offer us this level of detail, but you are still not citing your sources, making verifying your data rather tricky. For example, in trying to corroborate this alleged bit about a fishing operation, I found a link that claimed the island was "sold" to fish merchants in 1753, but it had no data about any actual private industry being conducted there. I would like to add such data to the body of verifiable facts if indeed it is such, but I'm not willing to just take the word of any old forum member who says so. I'm sure you can understand that. I find it strange that you wouldn't want to share all your sources up front for the betterment of the group, to help raise the level of dialogue and whatnot.

The Onslow company operated in 1849-51.

You'd agree that this doesn't match the popular timeline, right? Most works peg it at 1803-1805. The common wisdom is that we don't have documentation for Onslow's existence, so again I must ask for your sources in claiming that they operated nearly five decades later than most believe.

--GT