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Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MDing in St. Louis!

Mike Moutray

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Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Got a chance to hit a couple parks Sunday Morning... Early rain kept me from starting at my usual Ghetto Park, so I drove west to a dry park. I trolled through an unbelievable carpet of heavy iron and pulltabs for a few wheats and a 1934 silver quarter. I could see the rain moving away from the city in the distance so I headed downtown to hunt. After an hour of hunting, the strong wind dried out the grass and signals started to pop up everywhere! This area was hit very hard over the years, but I always seem to get signals to dig when the ground conditions are right. I managed 4 silver dimes - 1 1911 barber and 3 Mercs 1916, 1939, 1942S.

About halfway through the hunting, I stood up from digging a target when I heard shouting behind me. I turned to see a couple young punks about 10 feet behind me. I raised my digging hand to pull back my phones so I could hear what they were saying.... with my Lesche digger in the air I guess I looked like I was ready to stab them so they backed up a couple steps.
One was wearing sweats and sparring gloves and airboxing at me and the other was doing all the mouthing off.

" "I" don't want you here digging holes in "My" park!" says he. He was doing his very best at posturing and looking tough.
"I aint digging any holes" I said.
" "We" take pride in "Our" park here and you can't be digging any holes!" He says.
I was laughing inside by now, not only by how ridiculous he and his buddy looked trying to intimidate me, but by the fact he was standing on a busted malt liquor bottle getting sprayed down by 10 tons of trash blowing by in the wind.... in the park that "They" are so proud of.
"I've hunted here for years and I don't ever leave any holes. Do you see any that I left?" I inquired.
"Do you live around here?" He asks.
"I live 3 blocks away." I said ( I actually live 6 miles away, but who cares, right?)
He didn't look like he believed me but they turned and left muttering "don't dig any holes" as they went. ::) (whatever)
I did pay attention to which house he walked back to so I could keep tabs on it in case he came back out with a gun or a few of his Homies....

Granted this park is in the worst neighborhood in St. Louis and very few of us hunt here... alone at that. This was the first negative encounter I had with any local resident there, but it was LONG overdue, I suppose. Goes to show you got to be careful and mindful of your surroundings at all times.... and stand your ground when someone doesn't like you being there. Short of a direct threat against me, I don't let people intimidate me, but then again I'm 6 foot 5, 350 pounds, and carrying a large saw toothed digger... so that's easy for me to say. I often thought about packing a pistol with me out there, but that would only entice someone to do a "driveby" on me like a coward.

The real issue here was someone who didn't like me on his "turf" for my skin color, my detecting, or what ever, but he never said anything disparaging or threatening to me so I chalk it up to an isolated incident... like many others I've had before in many other parks. It's the world we live in anymore.....
Enjoy the pic, Happy Hunting, and watch your back out there.....
Mike.
 

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Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Great Hunt!!!!
Be Careful!!
We Dont Want No Drivebys!!!
HH!!
Swingit
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

i once hunted a park in N.Y. and liveing in R.I. i never even gave it second thought about the thugs, next time i go to the city i will be watching my back. thanks for the heads up.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Good finds Mike.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Mike, you must have been ready to use that digger......I see you tried to cut George's throat. Nice finds.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Sad huh. The world we live in is so full of jerks now. I bet you loved pulling out a 16' merc. D or no D.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

I always eye the older parts of town with a wonder in my mind, is it doable. Its not the poor people that worry me its the crack heads.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Nice silver, to bad about George though. I to find that after a good rain I will go to a lot that seems to be hunted out and yet find even more great treasures. Next time you go to that lot take a garbage bag with you and give it to those two fine citizens and suggest that they help you clean up their park with you.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

I'm surprised you've left that many silver in the Parks of St Louis over the years. Nice finds and there is always an abundance of young punks!!
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

SUPER SILVER FINDS. :thumbsup: YOU DID GOOD WITH THE WELCOMING COMMITTEE.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Way to go ,, great finds there in the ghetto,, I am suprised you could dig thru all the rib bones and beer bottles in that park!!!!!! :wink:

ANY WAY GREAT FINDS,,,,ART
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Geez your 1916 merc is in really amazingly good shape!!! wtg!!
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Congrats on all your finds especially that beautiful 1916!!
Happy and Safe Hunting to you!!

John
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Nice Finds WTG
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Good finds...I know what you mean about the punks...I hunt a local park here in the middle of where I live and I have only had one incident of being harassed by punks...I had 4 or 5 young 16-17 year old punks who didnt want me in "their"park....They just kept mouthing and being stupid til I raised up and stood up and took a defensive positiion...I am about 6'1" and about 350 pounds...I was a reserve police officer and a corrections officer in Texas...so I know a thing or two about dealing with stupid people ..plus I always carry my cellphone with the local police and sheriff's office phone numbers and 911 on speed dial....
 
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do you remember the number of guns that came out of o'fallon park about 12 or 13 years ago,,,,im an old st. louis city copper,,,,im curious what park it was, sounds like you were up on the north side,,,,and yes, ive heard of you,,,,and you are the king of forest park,,,,
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Nice digs there and great story. If I manage one silver in a hunt I'm happy.....great finds!
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

congrats on that sweet silver !!! :thumbsup:
Stay safe out there and always watch your back...
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Please be careful - I had a bad experience last September in an area I wasn't familiar with. I was only about 4 miles from home at a grade school when someone had shouted out that he found a gun. I took it as a bad sign (he wanted me to come over to where he was in the field) so started walking toward my truck..the next time I turned around he was pointing what looked like a gun right at me and I could see him trying to sight me in...I had to run away from the jerk and I was glad to have gotten to my truck and get out of there. I'll never go back, it's just not worth my safety.

You may think of getting a concealed carry permit if you still intend to hunt dangerous areas, or take someone with you, there's always power in numbers - idiots who want to cause trouble look for easy targets.

Take care,
Nat
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Just as there will always be old coinage available at the ghetto parks, there will always be the punks/druggies that make places like that unsafe for solo hunting.

You're lucky you're so big and tall. I could never hunt places like that. :'(

Congrats on your finds! :thumbsup: I'm surprised not to see a seated in your pics. ;D ;D

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
 

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