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Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MDing in St. Louis!

Mike Moutray

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Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Got a chance to hit a couple parks Sunday Morning... Early rain kept me from starting at my usual Ghetto Park, so I drove west to a dry park. I trolled through an unbelievable carpet of heavy iron and pulltabs for a few wheats and a 1934 silver quarter. I could see the rain moving away from the city in the distance so I headed downtown to hunt. After an hour of hunting, the strong wind dried out the grass and signals started to pop up everywhere! This area was hit very hard over the years, but I always seem to get signals to dig when the ground conditions are right. I managed 4 silver dimes - 1 1911 barber and 3 Mercs 1916, 1939, 1942S.

About halfway through the hunting, I stood up from digging a target when I heard shouting behind me. I turned to see a couple young punks about 10 feet behind me. I raised my digging hand to pull back my phones so I could hear what they were saying.... with my Lesche digger in the air I guess I looked like I was ready to stab them so they backed up a couple steps.
One was wearing sweats and sparring gloves and airboxing at me and the other was doing all the mouthing off.

" "I" don't want you here digging holes in "My" park!" says he. He was doing his very best at posturing and looking tough.
"I aint digging any holes" I said.
" "We" take pride in "Our" park here and you can't be digging any holes!" He says.
I was laughing inside by now, not only by how ridiculous he and his buddy looked trying to intimidate me, but by the fact he was standing on a busted malt liquor bottle getting sprayed down by 10 tons of trash blowing by in the wind.... in the park that "They" are so proud of.
"I've hunted here for years and I don't ever leave any holes. Do you see any that I left?" I inquired.
"Do you live around here?" He asks.
"I live 3 blocks away." I said ( I actually live 6 miles away, but who cares, right?)
He didn't look like he believed me but they turned and left muttering "don't dig any holes" as they went. ::) (whatever)
I did pay attention to which house he walked back to so I could keep tabs on it in case he came back out with a gun or a few of his Homies....

Granted this park is in the worst neighborhood in St. Louis and very few of us hunt here... alone at that. This was the first negative encounter I had with any local resident there, but it was LONG overdue, I suppose. Goes to show you got to be careful and mindful of your surroundings at all times.... and stand your ground when someone doesn't like you being there. Short of a direct threat against me, I don't let people intimidate me, but then again I'm 6 foot 5, 350 pounds, and carrying a large saw toothed digger... so that's easy for me to say. I often thought about packing a pistol with me out there, but that would only entice someone to do a "driveby" on me like a coward.

The real issue here was someone who didn't like me on his "turf" for my skin color, my detecting, or what ever, but he never said anything disparaging or threatening to me so I chalk it up to an isolated incident... like many others I've had before in many other parks. It's the world we live in anymore.....
Enjoy the pic, Happy Hunting, and watch your back out there.....
Mike.
 

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Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

great finds and be carefull man
 
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Nice silvers, and congrat's on standing your ground. :thumbsup:
 
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Mike, you put it very nice, you Sir have more polish than I.

Now, Down here in Democrat fraud land, we do not have that type of trouble. No we are respected and well liked by all the Democrat voters. They do not bother or harass us in the least. Its a regular love-in. :icon_scratch:

OH, Sorry, I forgot to mention we detect with Loaded Side Arms. :thumbsup:
 
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I can't remember the guys name, but he posted in the water forum a while back. He lived in hawaii and was attacked by some hoodlums, he posted pics of his head, it was busted open......that really made me open my eyes.

I was in a park in alma, michigan a few years back and a group of mexican teens let their dog loose on me after hollering at me for 10 minutes as i ignored them acting like i was embedded into my headphones. The dog came running at me, and i held my coil up in front of his face when he got close. Then i showed him my army trench digger and hollered at him. He barked at me for a few more seconds then had second thoughts and ran back to them. That was scary but i imagine it could get worse. Be careful out there!
 
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I'm glad it ended up OK for you. More often than not, I take my pistol with me. I have a concealed carry permit. I hope to never have to pull it out because if I do, I intend on using it.
 
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Huevos grande Senior.......my hat is off to you!
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

I live in Stockton Ca, and hunt a lot of the ghetto parks. Only had one problem so far with a punk kid rushing up, and pushing me over while I was digging a hole, he thought it was hilarious. I almost put my detector down to whip the crap out of him, and noticed the tough guy had friends close by. The more I go to these parks, I think the local ghetto boys have got use to me being there, and so far leave me alone. I have talked to a few, and they seem to keep an eye out in case someone does want to mess with me. Still, I keep a good eye on whats happening around me.
Stay safe out there.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

nice finds the '34 quarter is a key date if it is double struck

congrats
 
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marinecorpsgrunt said:
do you remember the number of guns that came out of o'fallon park about 12 or 13 years ago,,,,im an old st. louis city copper,,,,im curious what park it was, sounds like you were up on the north side,,,,and yes, ive heard of you,,,,and you are the king of forest park,,,,

Fairgrounds Park it was. The area around the park is dying off in scores of empty houses and open lots, but there still is a lot of "wildlife" going on in the area... I don't even let the random gunfire phaze me anymore - I hear enough of it around my own house. I still like hunting out there due to the immense history associated with that park and neighborhood going back 150 years. Several guns were found at O'Fallon Park when that lake was drained and I have 5 guns from Forest Park from various drained lakes over the years. St. Louis as a whole is a dying city and the population is dropping like a rock as everyone moves away, so there isn't too many bad apples left to dissuade me from hunting. They are trying to rebuild a lot of neighborhoods with section 8 housing but the same bad seeds move back into them. Now back in the 1980's when I tried hunting out there it was a TOTALLY different story - VERY scary back then! Take care and HH, Mike.
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Nice silver.. :D :D :D
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

I see you signed your Washington Quarter Mike. I once did it with a chisle in 10 degree weather on an otherwise great shape 1794 Liberty Cap thicky. Been there , done that. :thumbsup:
Chris
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Nice amount of Silver Mike !

Makes it all worthwhile !
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Mike, you still got it, without a doubt best silver finder in the Mid West for years!

Don
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Mike,
I enjoyed the story a lot. I can almost pictures those guys. ;D
Fantastic job on the coins.
-MM-
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Mike,

There ain't no silver like ghetto silver! I've done at least 30 trips to a local ghetto park and the most negative interactions thus far have been catcalls of "Yo homey! That's mine! You dug up my Rolex!" But you're right, we're all overdue for these types of confrontations. You can help by going during hours when a few more people are around. I bet it was a "turf issue" for those two because they saw you had an Explorer and knew you'd clean the place out of silver! :thumbsup: Look at all those individual feathers on that '16 merc! :icon_sunny:

Jim
 
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ziphius said:
Mike,

There ain't no silver like ghetto silver! I've done at least 30 trips to a local ghetto park and the most negative interactions thus far have been catcalls of "Yo homey! That's mine! You dug up my Rolex!" But you're right, we're all overdue for these types of confrontations. You can help by going during hours when a few more people are around. I bet it was a "turf issue" for those two because they saw you had an Explorer and knew you'd clean the place out of silver! :thumbsup: Look at all those individual feathers on that '16 merc! :icon_sunny:

Jim
That's what it was. They are probably White's for life dudes.
Chris
 
Re: Silver Sunday and the Ghetto Welcoming Committee - MD'ing in St. Louis!

Whatever,I would have said >:( Nice haul of silver :thumbsup:
 

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