So... Please tell me Why does a metal detector cost $2499 again?

[Treasure_Hunter]

No, they're just not selling any anymore, that's all.
If that were true it would be the first time in history that ever happened.
So why hasn't the price of anything else besides fuel dropped also?

Everyone is an economist but it's not that simple.

"more expensive dollar will mean cheaper imported goods for Americans, while making imports more expensive for those overseas. While major central banks don’t normally make currency values the explicit focus of their policies, they are supposed to account for whatever impact their fluctuations have on inflation.'

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/0...lar-means-for-the-economy.html?_r=0&referrer=

Benefits

In contrast to the challenges of a strong dollar, which tend to be more nebulous, affecting other people, you personally reap several benefits from a strong dollar. Here’s how:

"Imports: The biggest benefit, of course, is that imports are cheaper. (Well, they are cheaper in theory. at least.) That iPhone 6 no doubt is costing Apple a lot less to make, but someone in Cupertino conveniently forgot to notice that, because iPhone prices didn’t come down. At least they didn’t go up either, which could have happened if the dollar was weak. Christmas gifts made in China might turn out to be better this year, for example."

http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2014/11/26/how-does-a-strong-dollar-affect-you/

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[Keppy]

To be honest with you …Why do i even care … For i only buy used … So they sell it for $1000.00 new then i buy it like new but used for $400.00 or $450.00 ...

 

[el padron]

To be honest with you …Why do i even care … For i only buy used … So they sell it for $1000.00 new then i buy it like new but used for $400.00 or $450.00 ...

Because the equipment you are buying used has the potential to be the same antiquated, under built overpriced trash that most others buy new.....

 

[foiler]

If you want the technology but don't want to pay for it look to the used market. It doesn't really matter what the manufacturer wants. What people are willing to pay does. The used market says a lot about the maker and model. Quality machines are scarce and hold their value. Nuffsaid.

 

[lockster99]

I own a Minelab....It hits deeper than my last detector.....I like it. It finds stuff deeper than my 699.00 detector. It....is....that....simple.
Pretty sure no one can be made to go buy one...so don't. It's everyone's choice.

I would try it in another language, but I only speak English.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Because the equipment you are buying used has the potential to be the same antiquated, under built overpriced trash that most others buy new.....

Not even close. I have been buying used for years, my detectors work as they should, hit deep and I can get 80-100% of my money back on resale, done so several times....

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[FreeBirdTim]

You can buy a brand new XP Deus on eBay for $949.00 right now! I'd hate to be one of the people who forked over 2k for one a few months back. Just shows you what a ridiculous markup they originally had on it.

P.T. Barnum indeed...

 

[outdoorfunblonde]

Maybe they have HEATED BUTTONS for the fingers...? Or play music instead of beeping...?
Just like a car, or anything else... the more you pay, the more fancy of a unit... I'm guessing.
Kinda like a Dodge Neon and a Lexus... both cars, both perform as a car is expected to...But one cost WAY more than the other...and BLAH,BLAH,BLAH

 

[lockster99]

Mine does....the buttons are heated and it plays, "I'm in the money" when I get a silver quarter at 12".

 

[lockster99]

Oh...and I wear the 30.00 Minelab hat when I'm digging that quarter also.

 

[el padron]

Maybe they have HEATED BUTTONS for the fingers...? Or play music instead of beeping...?
Just like a car, or anything else... the more you pay, the more fancy of a unit... I'm guessing.
Kinda like a Dodge Neon and a Lexus... both cars, both perform as a car is expected to...But one cost WAY more than the other...and BLAH,BLAH,BLAH

How bout it stays together when you are carrying it up a hill?, or if the manufacturer eliminates the need to wrap the coil cable 25 times around the cheap metal shafts as it makes its way down to the the coil?
How about if the control unit case doesn't feel like something a cheap digital watch comes packaged in?
How about quality back lit digital displays and LED's.
Maybe a built in solar charging panel to promote battery life?
Since just about ever surface that is excavated is moist, how about water resisistant pin pointers? Right now most all are not, Are you kidding?

 

[lockster99]

How bout it stays together when you are carrying it up a hill?, or if the manufacturer eliminates the need to wrap the coil cable 25 times around the cheap metal shafts as it makes its way down to the the coil?
How about if the control unit case doesn't feel like something a cheap digital watch comes packaged in?
How about quality back lit digital dispalays and LED's.
Maybe a built in solar charging panel to promote battery life?
Since just about ever surface that is excavated is moist, how about water resisitant pin pointers? Right now most are not, Are you kidding?

We don't have hills where I live....
It's a CTX3030....no wrapping. Coil cable goes thru the carbon graphite shaft. Not metal...
Control unit feels like a Swiss watch...
HAS a quality backlit screen...
Solar charging panel....Well got me there. I opted for the curb feelers and curtains instead. No room for the charger.

 

[el padron]

"more expensive dollar will mean cheaper imported goods for Americans, while making imports more expensive for those overseas. While major central banks don’t normally make currency values the explicit focus of their policies, they are supposed to account for whatever impact their fluctuations have on inflation.'

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/0...lar-means-for-the-economy.html?_r=0&referrer=

Benefits

In contrast to the challenges of a strong dollar, which tend to be more nebulous, affecting other people, you personally reap several benefits from a strong dollar. Here’s how:

"Imports: The biggest benefit, of course, is that imports are cheaper. (Well, they are cheaper in theory. at least.) That iPhone 6 no doubt is costing Apple a lot less to make, but someone in Cupertino conveniently forgot to notice that, because iPhone prices didn’t come down. At least they didn’t go up either, which could have happened if the dollar was weak. Christmas gifts made in China might turn out to be better this year, for example."

How does a strong dollar affect you?

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I would like to thank you for explaining the effects of currency fluctuations as pertaining to world markets to a finance major once again.

I've heard most of it, It doesn't at all establish trends or accurately predict future conditions.
So did French Champagne and cologne also drop in price? How about other imports?
The Mexican Peso is down 30% against the dollar in the last 4 months alone.

I go down there with dollars converted to Peso's, I'm getting everything for half what I was paying last summer,(and a lot of dirty looks).

So why aren't all the Mexican imports consequently dropping in price?

Generally, is anything besides fuel, American interest rates and XP Deus's dropping in price?

Reading a few economic theories on Yahoo does not an economist make.

 

[lockster99]

You forgot about crappy over priced headphones.

The Koss over the ears wireless setup will probably break down on me any day now.

 

[el padron]

We don't have hills where I live....
It's a CTX3030....no wrapping. Coil cable goes thru the carbon graphite shaft. Not metal...
Control unit feels like a Swiss watch...
HAS a quality backlit screen...
Solar charging panel....Well got me there. I opted for the curb feelers and curtains instead. No room for the charger.

Yeah, I have one too, I worry about getting it wet, Its probably my favorite detector so far, (Not at all the most productive by far) but no, its not as well built as it should be for $2500.
I think the SGT is more sensitive.
I still have no idea what is actually in it, (the CTX, actually the SGT for that matter too)

Do you have access to a Swiss watch? I wouldn't quite put a CTX control housing in the same category. For $2500 it could have been close.

Do you know how many get sent back for repairs? I do, A lot. Usually pertaining to breached water seals.

The good news is they usually just send you a brand new detector if your warranty is still valid. That spells good things about customer service, but it makes you wonder what their true costs to replace a unit are if they so freely do so, rather then send out simple replacement seal kits.

You think that the CTX 3030 works well, but do you have any idea what is in the case? Does it matter?, It has a "faster processor" right? So what does that mean? Do you have any idea what kind of processor?
Would an extra $2 on behalf of the manufacturer have achieved better performance,? or would it have cost much more to get a higher marginal utility?

Did you just take the manufacturers word for it?
Because they certainly have never shared a parts list at the component level.
Do you know what "component level" means?
Do you have any idea at all? Do you care?

Would you have bought a computer for $2500 dollars without knowing the exact nomenclature of its components? Then why did you blindly buy a $2500 metal detector?
You're just proud of it aren't you?, You just want it to work , right? Well, how do you know it works beyond the most basic level?

You got the $2500 together and now you have a CTX 3030, Now you "can find treasure beyond your wildest dreams," just like the adds, right? You made it didn't you?

If you send them $600 more you can get the 16" coil, or you could have gotten it for free with a CTX if you asked them for it a while back.
Do you know what a coil consists of?

 

[el padron]

You forgot about crappy over priced headphones.

The Koss over the ears wireless setup will probably break down on my any day now.

Headphones are not usually dedicated. Luckily Minelab doesn't force us to use their headphones.
I use cheap Sony headphones when ever its feasible. But yeah....

 

[el padron]

I have talked to some of them about threads on forums, they don't monitor the forums, the retailers do but the manufacturers usually do not........



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“A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
― James Madison
The Constitution of the United States of America

Oh OK, Thanks for clarifying that. I was under the impression that manufacturers spend lots and lots of time money and resources investigating consumer sentiment.
I though that they painstakingly investigated their target demographic before committing to infrastructure and tooling.

Another possibility is that they simply see no need to respect you or communicate sincerely.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Control unit feels like a Swiss watch...
HAS a quality backlit screen...
Solar charging panel....Well got me there. I opted for the curb feelers and curtains instead. No room for the charger.

Not quite curb feelers but I fabricated a little light-weight stand so you can see the [backlit] display when using my [summersible] Sunray FX-1 probe.

My Swiss watch (a wind-up Hanowa I bought in Geneva in 1973 and I am wearing now) is pretty heavy stainless steel and mineral crystal. A detector would be way too heavy with a display and case made like that. ;-)




But I do wonder why my little VHF handheld radio meets JIS-7/IPX7 submersible requirements, has 1650mAh Lithium Ion rechargeables, and cost $110.

 

[lockster99]

El padron,

Not sure why you are such an angry person....nor do I care. I also do not care what is inside the medal detector. I care that it works.....it does....I'm happy. Why cant you just be happy for me el padron? That's very important to me...you believe that dont you?

 

[FreeBirdTim]

You can buy a brand new XP Deus on eBay for $949.00 right now! I'd hate to be one of the people who forked over 2k for one a few months back. Just shows you what a ridiculous markup they originally had on it.

Boy, you can hear the crickets chirping on this thread since I posted this fact! LOL! I guess all the Deus guys are running back to the dealer to get their money back!

I don't care how rich you are, nobody likes to pay 2k for anything and then see it for sale at half that price a few months later.