Some historical information to help.

[lorddean13]

I am starting this thread because there is a place where history and facts hold no relevance. I have been in the history field for a while and it literally hurts me when I see non factual information being passed as fact. So through out my thread I will do my best to tackle some of these discrepancies. There will be NO arguments and I will provide supporting documentation where possible. So let the information flow begin.

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

I am starting this thread because there is a place where history and facts hold no relevance. I have been in the history field for a while and it literally hurts me when I see non factual information being passed as fact. So through out my thread I will do my best to tackle some of these discrepancies. There will be NO arguments and I will provide supporting documentation where possible. So let the information flow begin.

Well; there is HISTORY... PRE-HISTORY... MYTHS... LEGENDS... WHERE to begin...?

 

[0121stockpicker]

Good luck! I tried a fact / truth thread on the constitution. You realize quickly how "subjective" the truth can be to some. With the internet every nutter with a website is an expert and the crazier the idea the more attention they get. Best of luck.

 

[0121stockpicker]

Maybe start a little dialog of current conventional wisdom on Western Hemisphere visitations? Took a while for science to accept the Viking theory which I think is widely accepted and backed by physical proof. Any other theories being serious kicked around?

 

[lorddean13]

I will go with what is academically accepted and peer reviewed.

 

[Chadeaux]

"Peer reviewed" is about grant money, so I have little to no respect for that idea. I can get three rednecks with 5 teeth between them and get "peer reviewed". Peer reviewed simply means that people of like minds and status agree with it. It has nothing to do with truth but everything to do with popularity.

Cajuns have a phrase for "peer reviewed" --- "They is in cahoots!"

 

[lorddean13]

Well I am one of those people who receives grant money lol so I'm in cahoots with my fellow academics.

 

[arnofarrell]

This is a good thread idea but it is very broad. Also Lord I like your new avatar.

 

[Chadeaux]

This is a good thread idea but it is very broad. Also Lord I like your new avatar.

I definitely agree with that one. Beautiful!

 

[releventchair]

Maybe start a little dialog of current conventional wisdom on Western Hemisphere visitations? Took a while for science to accept the Viking theory which I think is widely accepted and backed by physical proof. Any other theories being serious kicked around?

Sorry lordden,
Being quite near copper country where vast quantities left for where ?.other cultures visiting to acquire it is intriguing. Rivers a couple thousand years ago could have been utilized as well. With your back ground have you encountered any proof of Phoenicians on east coast or is it just rumor?

 

[lorddean13]

Thanks the pic is of one of my old finds.

 

[lorddean13]

Relevant, haven't done much research on Phoenicians but there is speculation in some paleoarcheology circles that there might have been trade between native Americans and Carthage. As for the copper you discuss I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[lorddean13]

my favorite find.

 

[Dave44]

Relevent, are you near the Gila wilderness?

 

[releventchair]

Relevent, are you near the Gila wilderness?

I,m s.e. of lake superior copper country. (Its in michigans upper peninsula) Keewenaw peninsula and isle royal the sites of copper mining going back a couple thousandsears plus. 500,000 tons alleged to have come out . Tools left and techniques have created speculation.
The s.w. U.S.has seen interest along the old rivers yes. more than just the mississippi!.

 

[Dave44]

I,m s.e. of lake superior copper country. (Its in michigans upper peninsula) Keewenaw peninsula and isle royal the sites of copper mining going back thousands of years plus. 500,000 tons alleged to have come out . Tools left and techniques have created speculation.

Oh, Love a mystery, haven't heard of that, Thanks

 

[arnofarrell]

Brilliant toning Lord. Beautiful coin.

Relevent- I thought you may of been talking about these mines. Have you been watching America Unearthed?

 

[releventchair]

No, no cable package to access,p.b.s. about the only educational programing i watch.

 

[boris]

I am starting this thread because there is a place where history and facts hold no relevance. I have been in the history field for a while and it literally hurts me when I see non factual information being passed as fact. So through out my thread I will do my best to tackle some of these discrepancies. There will be NO arguments and I will provide supporting documentation where possible. So let the information flow begin.

Do you know anything about the Sommer Islands{Bermuda} as I am very interested because the tokens are very rare and I believe they{Thomas Tew} came here somehow as a hidden colony} about 300 years ago circa 1685?, due to findings with hogge/ship logo see avatar, there even is a rock here with an "X" chiseled into it visible at low tides. I think I have a III pence but it is perhaps a different variety from the red book and PCGS has not been of help. Notre Dame Colonial coins site covers the tokens but most are well worn down by the Sea on my Island. HH Boris

 

[releventchair]

Dave 44, if you google missing copper Michigan it should have some info.to get you started.

Lordean,any update on lost colony of roanoak?
Carthage,thanks!