Tesoro metal detectors?

[Jovan421]

What like some info abot these detectors nd what makes them so great. Also compared to VDI display detectors. thanks

 

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[Daniel3839]

never wrong on a solid target! 3 out of 6 sounds like 50/50 ... So this sounds like you have never dug a pulltab? I dig lots of iffy targets and I am not surprised to see a pull tab... A surprise would be a gold ring! I am sure I often have the pulltab dug and in my bag while you are still swinging over your iffy target... 3 good swings out of 6 is always dug, how do u know if 2 out of six should not?
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I have about 400+ hours on my CTX 3030. When my display shows a fairly consistent 12-13 its a nickle 97% of the time, the other 3% its a tab, I dig all 12-12 to 12-13 VID ranges and NEVER miss a nickel and rarely dig a tab, that's the beauty of a $2700.00 metal detector. When you have over 400+ hours on a CTX 3030 then you're in a position to comment on it, otherwise, keep it to yourself. No one doubts if you dig everything that beeps you find more, same concept as using dynamite to fish! Of course only morons do that. Sure you get more, but how practical is it? And by the way, if you want to spend your day off dragging a cart around in 98 degree heat, have at it! Ill take the golf cart AND a 12 pack on ice, in the shade! No one appreciates your smart a$$ comments by the way. Keep them to yourself.

 

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[Daniel3839]

If you like digging trash buy a Tesoro, that way you won't miss anything.

Exactly. Same concept as fishing with dynamite, sure you get more but how practical is it. You end up busting your butt to cover very little ground, you spend most of the day on your knee's digging up can slaw and tabs, that's how you get burnt out and quit the hobby, unless you're a glutton for punishment. Once you learn your VID by digging iffy targets, you quickly learn what the meter is telling you. You can easily tell there is another target masking it by the multiple tones and VID jumping around. On my CTX 3030 I have spent entire days with open discrimination, just blocking iron and every target was exactly what the VID said it was. I can set a tone for aluminum, foil, nickles and silver or copper pennies on up and know what I'm hitting without even looking at the meter, if it has multiple tones and the VDI number is jumping its multiple targets, then you just try and single them out using the tone and the meter or hit your pre-programmed discrimination pattern and single out one of the suspected tones , if you cant, just dig them both up if one is in the keeper range. With a single tone only with no meter, you just have dig everything. That's for the birds. Who wants to dig a target every 18 inches?

You cant even notch out tabs and hit nickels on just about every one of the Tesoro's, no notch discrimination on most of them. The Golden Umax had it but its no longer available, had issues with tones from what I read. Its a great detector, if that's what you want.

If your're after Gold rings, I saw on youtube a guy who mapped out the ID of about 2 dozen+ different sized gold rings, All but 2 of them fell in the 12-1 to 12-18 range, that's foil range too. But if you're looking for gold rings, set a GOLD tone for that range and have at it, (you can put a different tone on every other target and null out iron and every target you get a good hit on you have a 95% chance of it being a gold ring, but plan on digging plenty of foil too). That's the joy of a VID and multi tone detector. Anyone saying they are a waste of money probably just cant afford one.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Exactly. Same concept as fishing with dynamite, sure you get more but how practical is it. You end up busting your butt to cover very little ground, you spend most of the day on your knee's digging up can slaw and tabs, that's how you get burnt out and quit the hobby, unless you're a glutton for punishment. Once you learn your VID by digging iffy targets, you quickly learn what the meter is telling you. You can easily tell there is another target masking it by the multiple tones and VID jumping around. On my CTX 3030 I have spent entire days with open discrimination, just blocking iron and every target was exactly what the VID said it was. I can set a tone for aluminum, foil, nickles and silver or copper pennies on up and know what I'm hitting without even looking at the meter, if it has multiple tones and the VDI number is jumping its multiple targets, then you just try and single them out using the tone and the meter or hit your pre-programmed discrimination pattern and single out one of the suspected tones , if you cant, just dig them both up if one is in the keeper range. With a single tone only with no meter, you just have dig everything. That's for the birds. Who wants to dig a target every 18 inches?

You cant even notch out tabs and hit nickels on just about every one of the Tesoro's, no notch discrimination on most of them. The Golden Umax had it but its no longer available, had issues with tones from what I read. Its a great detector, if that's what you want.

If your're after Gold rings, I saw on youtube a guy who mapped out the ID of about 2 dozen+ different sized gold rings, All but 2 of them fell in the 12-1 to 12-18 range, that's foil range too. But if you're looking for gold rings, set a GOLD tone for that range and have at it, (you can put a different tone on every other target and null out iron and every target you get a good hit on you have a 95% chance of it being a gold ring, but plan on digging plenty of foil too). That's the joy of a VID and multi tone detector. Anyone saying they are a waste of money probably just cant afford one.

Written by a person that has obviously never owned or used a Tesoro. Oh, and I LOVE this line: "I can set a tone for aluminum, foil, nickles and silver or copper pennies on up and know what I'm hitting without even looking at the meter.." Sure you can Daniel, sure you can

 

[Terry Soloman]

On a completely different note, you have to appreciate a thread that has lasted more than two-years, and is so full of passion on BOTH sides of the argument.
It has to make you wonder why all Tesoro owners are so dedicated to their brand and machines, and why the bell and whistle, $1,000.00+ machine owners dislike us so much.

 

[atomicscott]

Exactly. Same concept as fishing with dynamite, sure you get more but how practical is it. You end up busting your butt to cover very little ground, you spend most of the day on your knee's digging up can slaw and tabs, that's how you get burnt out and quit the hobby, unless you're a glutton for punishment. Once you learn your VID by digging iffy targets, you quickly learn what the meter is telling you. You can easily tell there is another target masking it by the multiple tones and VID jumping around. On my CTX 3030 I have spent entire days with open discrimination, just blocking iron and every target was exactly what the VID said it was. I can set a tone for aluminum, foil, nickles and silver or copper pennies on up and know what I'm hitting without even looking at the meter, if it has multiple tones and the VDI number is jumping its multiple targets, then you just try and single them out using the tone and the meter or hit your pre-programmed discrimination pattern and single out one of the suspected tones , if you cant, just dig them both up if one is in the keeper range. With a single tone only with no meter, you just have dig everything. That's for the birds. Who wants to dig a target every 18 inches?

You cant even notch out tabs and hit nickels on just about every one of the Tesoro's, no notch discrimination on most of them. The Golden Umax had it but its no longer available, had issues with tones from what I read. Its a great detector, if that's what you want.

If your're after Gold rings, I saw on youtube a guy who mapped out the ID of about 2 dozen+ different sized gold rings, All but 2 of them fell in the 12-1 to 12-18 range, that's foil range too. But if you're looking for gold rings, set a GOLD tone for that range and have at it, (you can put a different tone on every other target and null out iron and every target you get a good hit on you have a 95% chance of it being a gold ring, but plan on digging plenty of foil too). That's the joy of a VID and multi tone detector. Anyone saying they are a waste of money probably just cant afford one.

You hit the nail on the head! Why even bother having a disc option when you can just 'dig everything'? Thats the point of disc, to not get bogged down by digging all the trash. How boring would it be to just dig everything, having no idea of the targets conductivity or how deep it is, etc...? If VID/multi-tones was just a marketing gimmick, I'm sure someone (other than Terry) would have exposed all these scheming companies that offer VID and multi-tones by now.

 

[Terry Soloman]

...Why even bother having a disc option when you can just 'dig everything'? Thats the point of disc, to not get bogged down by digging all the trash...

Last time I checked, all my VLF Tesoro machines have discrimination. In fact, the discrimination on my Tesoro machines work EXTREMELY well. We are NOT arguing discrimination, we are debating whether or not it is worth Hundreds, or even Thousands more to have a screen with little numbers that are guessing what the target is below your coil. I hunt with E-Trac, CTX 3030, and Deus users ALL THE TIME. I find just as many - often times more - good targets than my buddies do with my Tesoro Vaquero.

If spending lots of money for a tool that takes an educated guess at what's under your coil makes you believe you have an advantage, God Bless You!

 

[DirtWarrior]

It has to make you wonder why all Tesoro owners are so dedicated to their brand and machines, and why the bell and whistle, $1,000.00+ machine owners dislike us so much.

Wouldn't it also make sense that OTHER owners are just as dedicated to their machines and that Tesoro owners dislike us just as much, as in yourself T.S.

Not every machine cost $1,000.00 either and they're just as good as any Tesoro and just because they have VDI doesn't mean that they don't have tones as well

 

[atomicscott]

Last time I checked, all my VLF Tesoro machines have discrimination. In fact, the discrimination on my Tesoro machines work EXTREMELY well. We are NOT arguing discrimination, we are debating whether or not it is worth Hundreds, or even Thousands more to have a screen with little numbers that are guessing what the target is below your coil. I hunt with E-Trac, CTX 3030, and Deus users ALL THE TIME. I find just as many - often times more - good targets than my buddies do with my Tesoro Vaquero.

If spending lots of money for a tool that takes an educated guess at what's under your coil makes you believe you have an advantage, God Bless You!

God Bless You? Wow, I really just assumed you were an aetheist, or at the very least, agnostic! Thanks & right back at ya! I think I was referring of the accuracy of disc between the $500 Tesoro vs the other more expensive (TID/ multi tone) machines.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Wouldn't it also make sense that OTHER owners are just as dedicated to their machines and that Tesoro owners dislike us just as much, as in yourself T.S.

Not every machine cost $1,000.00 either and they're just as good as any Tesoro and just because they have VDI doesn't mean that they don't have tones as well

Here is the difference DW. I don't look down on you or dislike you because you are a Garrett user. I don't attack Garrett, or Whites as technological dinosaurs. I simply defend Tesoro machines for what they are - just as capable of finding the good stuff as any other brand on the market today regardless of price and hype. I have used MANY brands over the last 35+ years. My experiences led me to Tesoro, and the treasure I have found with them in all parts of this country has made me stay with them.

I've field tested new Minelab; Fisher; Whites; Blisstool; Garrett; Teknetics; Bounty Hunter; and I'll be trying the new Notka this February, at our nuggethunting school in Arizona. So far I have always found the machines are just the same old technology made up with a few more buttons, a couple of gimmicks, and some different shades of lipstick.

Why am I an uber-fan of Tesoro? Because EVERY Jack Gifford machine I've owned has paid for itself AT LEAST once. Several have paid for themselves MANY times over. I know Vince Gifford, Rusty Henry is a friend of mine, and I have met and talked with most of the folks that work at the Tesoro factory in my home State of Arizona. Tesoro machines are light, simple to learn and use, they are fairly priced, and have an unbeatable made in America warranty for every original owner.

My quote? Tesoro machines are just as good - or better, than machines costing TWICE as much.

 

[Terry Soloman]

...I think I was referring of the accuracy of disc between the $500 Tesoro vs the other more expensive (TID/ multi tone) machines.

Gosh, there is a difference? I've never noticed any real difference in discrimination between an E-Trac, CTX 3030, Deus, or the V3i and a Vaquero.

 

[dirtscratcher]

Gosh, there is a difference? I've never noticed any real difference in discrimination between an E-Trac, CTX 3030, Deus, or the V3i and a Vaquero.

Tell the truth I don't even know how to use the disc on my explorer but the ability to run an open screen and listen to everything blows away the whole Tesoro experience. Anyone with limited experience with an explorer type detector will tell you it is not accurate won't find this or that blah blah blah. I have over a thousand
hours and dig few surprises and I dig almost everything in select areas and can ignore the iron that the vaquero loves so much. The problem here is people new to detecting want to hear how simple the Tesoro are and it will find everything all those crazy guys spending so much money do. The problem is that in my opinion is fantasy. Fact is you can buy a used explorer for the same price as a vaquero or Tejon and have ten times the detector. And last but not least the warranty on my vaquero never found me anything and I have three mine labs one is 14 yrs one is 8 yrs and the other is 5 yrs old and never had one problem with any. A ND before anyone blasts me for being a mine lab freak right know I like my teknetics t2 more than,any detector I have used.

 

[atomicscott]

Tell the truth I don't even know how to use the disc on my explorer but the ability to run an open screen and listen to everything blows away the whole Tesoro experience. Anyone with limited experience with an explorer type detector will tell you it is not accurate won't find this or that blah blah blah. I have over a thousand
hours and dig few surprises and I dig almost everything in select areas and can ignore the iron that the vaquero loves so much. The problem here is people new to detecting want to hear how simple the Tesoro are and it will find everything all those crazy guys spending so much money do. The problem is that in my opinion is fantasy. Fact is you can buy a used explorer for the same price as a vaquero or Tejon and have ten times the detector. And last but not least the warranty on my vaquero never found me anything and I have three mine labs one is 14 yrs one is 8 yrs and the other is 5 yrs old and never had one problem with any. A ND before anyone blasts me for being a mine lab freak right know I like my teknetics t2 more than,any detector I have used.

I'm in the same boat, all metal, all the time! I don't like being FORCED to use disc (and increase chance of masking) by having only one tone to discern different metals. However even in all metal, I still have multi tones and VID numbers. I disc with my ears, but the screen does have useful info, if you care to use it.

 

[Terry Soloman]

I'm in the same boat, all metal, all the time! I don't like being FORCED to use disc (and increase chance of masking) by having only one tone to discern different metals. However even in all metal, I still have multi tones and VID numbers. I disc with my ears, but the screen does have useful info, if you care to use it.

Your boat just sunk Scott. I run my Vaquero in All Metal and reverse discriminate all the time. Nope, not being "FORCED" to use disc at all. If you Tesoro haters are going to debate the pros and cons, at least educate yourselves so you can present a solid argument.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Tell the truth I don't even know how to use the disc on my explorer...
...I have over a thousand hours and dig few surprises...
...before anyone blasts me for being a mine lab freak right know I like my teknetics t2 more than,any detector I have used.

Wow, over a thousand hours on your Minelab and you still don't know how to use it? Yet, you feel comfortable telling us that the fact a Tesoro will find anything - and discriminate as well or better than your Minelabs, and NEW FAVORITE T2, is a "fantasy?" You have some big ones DS, I'll give you that!

 

[atomicscott]

Your boat just sunk Scott. I run my Vaquero in All Metal and reverse discriminate all the time. Nope, not being "FORCED" to use disc at all. If you Tesoro haters are going to debate the pros and cons, at least educate yourselves so you can present a solid argument.

I would love to see that where I hunt with over 10 targets per swing! What a joke.

 

[dirtscratcher]

Wow, over a thousand hours on your Minelab and you still don't know how to use it? Yet, you feel comfortable telling us that the fact a Tesoro will find anything - and discriminate as well or better than your Minelabs, and NEW FAVORITE T2, is a "fantasy?" You have some big ones DS, I'll give you that!

Well that is the dumbest thing you have said yet. I learned with an open screen and have no use for disc because unlike your Tesoro the explorer still has tone I'd and the smart screen for I'd. Your statement only proves you know nothing about a detector that performs best with no disc. So you really don't even know how to use one and you make all these crazy claims. Like I have said before I feel for the people that fall for your Tesoro commercials.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Tell the truth I don't even know how to use the disc on my explorer....

Just quoting you sir.

 

[dirtscratcher]

Wow, over a thousand hours on your Minelab and you still don't know how to use it? Yet, you feel comfortable telling us that the fact a Tesoro will find anything - and discriminate as well or better than your Minelabs, and NEW FAVORITE T2, is a "fantasy?" You have some big ones DS, I'll give you that!

How in the world did you come up with me saying anything good about Tesoro disc being good and the finding as good or better than the minelabs. That just to make it perfectly clear is your fantasy not mine. As a matter of fact my vaquero has been the biggest dissapointment in my meteldetecting experience so far.

 

[dirtscratcher]

Just quoting you sir.

I didn't say I don't know how to use my explorer I said I don't know how to use the disc because there is no need. Just so you uderstand they work best with an open screen giving an incredible amount of info not just the same beep over and over and over like the tesoro

 

[Terry Soloman]

How in the world did you come up with me saying anything good about Tesoro disc being good and the finding as good or better than the minelabs. That just to make it perfectly clear is your fantasy not mine. As a matter of fact my vaquero has been the biggest dissapointment in my meteldetecting experience so far.

Gosh, if I could type slower I'm still not really sure you could understand. You wrote: "The problem here is people new to detecting want to hear how simple the Tesoro are and it will find everything all those crazy guys spending so much money do. The problem is that in my opinion is fantasy."

And I replied: "Wow, over a thousand hours on your Minelab and you still don't know how to use it? Yet, you feel comfortable telling us that the fact a Tesoro will find anything - and discriminate as well or better than your Minelabs, and NEW FAVORITE T2, is a "fantasy?" You have some big ones DS, I'll give you that!"

C'mon DS, you can do this!