The 90 foot stone... The evidence (or lack of)

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Burlington is where I hosted the American Cryptogram Association's annual convention

Remember....amazing even the world's best with Admunsen's research being simulcast from Norway.....and showing them the ciphers broken that were not found during his explorations.

Where were you again?

Trying real hard online to stay Low Key.....lol
 

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Here is an example of "Scott Wolters'" idea of a treasure map....hand drawn from "memory"

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Complete with a couple of scribbles just to let you know it's authentic

See anything like that in my research?

Nope...but you will see it in their shows and their online excuses for non-performance
 

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Well at least he has a TV Show.....lol

And a completely useless resume at this point having gallivanted in front of millions in his quest for the "Holy Grail" in America.....

Keep up the good work...you're famous
 

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You just think I live in Burlington....lol

I remember mention of a failed run for Mayor and an amusing newspaper interview full of insults and a ride into the sunset on a pedal power work bike.
I can post links if you so require.
'NUFF SAID!
 

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I remember mention of a failed run for Mayor and an amusing newspaper interview full of insults and a ride into the sunset on a pedal power work bike.


But you are still a pawn of a fraudster named Scott Wolters

And the State of Vermont's Archie has already escorted me to the sites.....

Leaves you to play with yourselves now lying to everyone for a good laugh....
 

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... the State of Vermont's Archie has already escorted me to the sites...
...and did he observe and verify the Templar Treasure Vault and the fabulous treasure it held?
What is his name and where is his official report?
It is obvious from other posts that you will never provide any real information for your statements, including taking a Vermont archie to this fantasy sire.
 

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Boo hoo you can't find anything on the show

and I won't give you a cent of what I've got ..... lol
 

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Lets assume that the numerous old pictures of the stone itself that are around, as well as the copy that was made by the professor are at least basis for reality.

Don't just disappear this stone because you cannot solve the puzzle....it is quite literal and formed using a single ciphertext that is used to be converted through a number of Bacon's signature decryption methods. Except being his favorite subject IMO he was careful enough to warn you as well as describe the rest of the mystery surrounding the treasure's whereabouts by offering you a multi-layered cipher to decode.

It was said that Roosevelt was on the island and his family has the stone to this day.

This was a fantastic moment in my life honestly and one I will never forget....one night ...4 hours decoding the cipher on this stone, using the instructions of the Bible and Shakespeare to guide the break.

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Here's another one of the original stone

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So all of the hooplah around it must be real

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The stone held a series of breakdowns...not just one but a compounding use of different techniques needed to break all of them.

1) Using English you got a single null in the beginning to tell you it was a fake lure.....FFORTY FEET BELOW TWO MILLION POUNDS ARE BURIED is a ffarce of a solve...signed with the Double F of the Old English usage from Francis Bacon's timeframe
2) Using the Portuguese Wheel you came up with something that told you to shove corn husks in the hole to stop the flooding of the chamber from a side channel
3) The mistakes of this Portuguese Wheel Cipher are then corrected, and using the corrections on their own form the phrase AN OCEAN QUAGMIRE meaning the pit has a tie to the ocean in some fashion as a riddle or mystery
4) My solve in the pic above TESORO ALLA TIENE UNO HALLADO NUEVO(S) DEL BIBLIO....meaning TREASURE THERE HAS A NEW DISCOVERY OF THE BIBLE.....the use of THERE in Spanish is significant as they are specific in its use.
AQUI = Here, ALLA = There, AQUELL = Over There, or A Great Distance Away
5) The final solve of the stone cipher is a drawn image of a rose compass shape that is used to point you in the right direction when you get to the next location......the use of the symbols instruct you in how to draw the shapes on paper and the placement is used on the map of the area once you completed the rest of the steps

Next was the Keystone....it had the word HOP on it....in HOPE that you would HOP to the East

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P -->

Pretty easy to see when there was a series of 3 rocks....two with sighting rod holes in them in straight line from the Money Pit to the 3rd....a domed rock in the water.....pointed in a straight line you got to find one of the other fine treasures of their order and it was even winking at you with an alchemaic symbol on the face in place of the Eagle's Eye

There is a ton of evidence there as well showing a path and pieces that were intended to be fit together

Oh look honey....someone broke the ciphers that they tried to solve on that show.....lol
 

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Lets assume that the numerous old pictures of the stone itself that are around, as well as the copy that was made by the professor are at least basis for reality.
Why would you assume that?

Read the early source documents. That picture you have does not resemble the ealry reports of the stone.

There has NEVER been an actual first hand account of a specific code on the stone.

No one even knows if that "alleged professor' even existed and if he did that he gave that translation and if that transaltion was given where the code come from. It is not even claimed that the professor even saw the original stone.

The whole code/decipher came from a prospectus in the 1890s that was trying to raise money for a search.

Reports from the early 1900s already have the stone with the code worn away. So how could there be any photos.

Eldo do you even look at historical source material before you make these posts?
 

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eldo should start a new thread about his templar vault in the knights templar sub-forum vs. taking up content space in the hoax island threads.

I don't see what he’s posting but its probably a lot of back peddling, personal attacks, and fictional material unrelated to the hoax of oak island.
 

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... the State of Vermont's Archie has already escorted me to the sites...
Was that Jess Robinson, Vermont State Archaeologist?
...or Laura Trieschmann, Vermont Historic Preservation Officer?
...or Tracy Martin, Vermont Historic Site Section Chief?
You do realize, Eldo, that they are required to issue a statement and write a report if anything of historical importance is discovered instituting the protection and preservation of of the site...
...and there is NO mention of this Templar Treasure Vault in any Vermont State Archaeological Records.
'NUFF SAID!
 

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But you are still a pawn of a fraudster named Scott Wolters...
If you had read any of my posts concerning Scott Wolter, you would realize that I consider him a charlatan along with Muir, Halpren, Pennington, Wilson & Blackett, and other pseudo-history hucksters that claim "BIG" discoveries while lacking real verifiable outside supporting evidence. :wink: Savvy?
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Im only here now to watch the resident sesquipedalian, ECS, add "Nuff Said" to the end of every post like a 5 year old that just learned a new word.
 

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But you are still a pawn of a fraudster named Scott Wolters

I realize that some people may feel that the comment I am going to make is nit-picky, but I believe that it is important. While I have not read every thread and post here, I get the impression that you have done a lot of research and work related to Oak Island and other treasure tales. However, you constantly refer to someone named "Scott Wolters." I have never heard of him. I have heard of "Scott Wolter." Is this the person that you mean? Do you spell it that way for some personal reason or dislike of him? If not, and you simply cannot spell it properly, how does this reflect on the accuracy of any research that you have done. I mean, if you can't even manage to spell a public figure's name correctly, (and it is not like it has some strange spelling), then how can you accurately decode hidden messages spread out over time and locations around the world?
 

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Im only here now to watch the resident sesquipedalian, ECS, add "Nuff Said" to the end of every post like a 5 year old that just learned a new word.
How was I to know that you find "long" words frightening and so scary that you just had to sound such a silly supercillous statement.
'NUFF SAID! :tongue3:
 

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You would be the authority on superciliousness as well. You super smart, savvy superstar sack of s.s.s..sunshine (so sorry for the studder, sometimes something steers to stall my speech sproratically) somebody that you are.

NOT NUFF SAID
 

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You would be the authority on superciliousness as well. You super smart, savvy superstar sack of s.s.s..sunshine (so sorry for the studder, sometimes something steers to stall my speech sproratically) somebody that you are.

NOT NUFF SAID

I always enjoy a poster that has absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion, but takes the time to disparage me with limp lackluster less than dazzler dredge drivel, Robert.
Thanks for playing.
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... the State of Vermont's Archie has already escorted me to the sites.....
Leaves you to play with yourselves now lying to everyone for a good laugh....
Shall we return to the discussion interrupted by Robert Dazzler's nonsensical nonsequitur retort accompanied with likes from the peanut gallery, concerning the State of Vermont Archaeologist who "escorted" him to the dome rock Templar Treasure Vault, after he backed away from Scott Wolter's offer to rent a helicopter and fly him there.

Was it:
Jess Robinson, State of Vermont Archaeologist
Tracy Martin, Vermont Historic Site Section Chief
Laura Trieschmann, Vermont Historic Preservation Officer

I am sure many here on TN would be interested in knowing the State of Vermont's Official position on this fabulous history changing discovery that Eldo claims he discovered in a Vermont State Park.
 

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