the everything site ...?

[cactusjumper]

Roy,

I believe you mistyped Latin Illiterate. I believe anyone who has read as many books as I have, would have run across that phrase now and again.

I had no idea that bb was attributing all of his claims to remote viewing. I must have missed that along the way. I admit, I put him on ignore for awhile, but things got boring.

It's good that he has a friend like you to explain his idiosyncratic notions. I suppose I will just have to find the Internet site where he learned about his......gift.

Nice post. I especially liked the part about crossing the Alps with Hannibal. Were you one of the lucky ones who actually lived through it?

Take care,

Joe

 

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[Gossamer]

Joe, RVing is a skill not a gift. Some say that anyone can do it. And I guarantee you if I can anyone can.
LOL... Janiece... if you come to the Oct get to gether I will bring the material I have on it. Janiece

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: the everything site ...? <drifting off-topic>

Greetings friends,

Cactusjumper (Joe) wrote:

Roy,

I believe you mistyped Latin Illiterate. I believe anyone who has read as many books as I have, would have run across that phrase now and again.

I am not Latin-literate either my friend, but did learn a little bit and tried to wade through Caesar’s Commentaries. He had a couple of phrases that I particularly like, one was “Stellas Miramar”.

Cactusjumper also wrote:

I had no idea that bb was attributing all of his claims to remote viewing. I must have missed that along the way. I admit, I put him on ignore for awhile, but things got boring.

You did not miss a statement from Blindbowman that ALL of his claims are obtained via remote-viewing, and I did not mean to imply that. Some of his salient points are obtained by remote-viewing though, such as having spoken with Montezuma for instance and IF these are symbolic bits of information rather than literal as he is taking them, it would have a different meaning overall. I know that you and Blindbowman have some disagreements but still, I think that if we could get together around that campfire at the rendezvous, any hostility would quickly evaporate. Just my opinion of course.

Cactusjumper also wrote:

It's good that he has a friend like you to explain his idiosyncratic notions. I suppose I will just have to find the Internet site where he learned about his......gift.

Well thank you amigo, but I suspect that you would do the same under different circumstances. After all we are a pack of treasure hunters here (altruistic claims notwithstanding, since every one of us has gone hunting treasures) to an “outsider” all of us here must appear to be quite mad and/or foolish. Who in this day and age would go off into the desert/arctic/mountains searching for gold and treasures like the old-time prospectors or pirates after all? Besides, I am really guessing about Blindbowman’s reactions, based on our months of interactions, and that I too have “jumped the gun” in forums when I had a bad day, reacting badly when it was not called for. He is certainly capable of speaking for himself, as you are. We do disagree on many things, but overall are more alike than different - just as we disagree on what types of firearms are best to carry, or what vehicle is best etc. The core interests are alike.

Cactusjumper also wrote:

Nice post. I especially liked the part about crossing the Alps with Hannibal. Were you one of the lucky ones who actually lived through it?

<grin> Well I should have expected that, and thank you. (Even I get lucky once in a while with a string of words) The “memories” of various past lives are not much more than flashes and occasionally in dreams, so could very well be nothing more than a product of my imagination. If it is real memories, I can tell you what I do “recall” of that crossing - it was a nightmare in every way. We had good woolen capes that also served as “sleeping bags” but they were not warm enough and would get wet during the day as we hiked through the snows. At night we could not find enough wood for fires to even get dry and many men lost fingers and toes. Some of the men burned their fence posts, which were intended for the camp fence and they got beaten for it. As darkness set in, the skies would clear off and the temperatures would plummet, but by morning the sky was grey again. In the mornings we would find men frozen to the ground and had to leave them where they lay, covering them with nothing but snow. The Sun rarely appeared and the tops of the mountains were often shrouded with mists, in which were hiding savage barbarians who sought to kill anyone who strayed from the columns but rarely would stand to fight. The mountains seemed to stretch up into the sky, and cresting the passes only showed yet more steep and treacherous mountains ahead. The trail became a hard-packed sheet of ice from the tramping of thousands of feet, and men and animals often simply fell to their deaths and there was nothing we could do. The elephants, horses and mules were starving and everyone believed we were lost and doomed. Hannibal would cheer us and encourage us when we were ready to give up and turn back, always promising that he would “find a way, or we will make one”. In the end, we did have to make our own road for we could not find the path leading down into Italy. Crossing the Alps was much worse than crossing the Pyrenees, and when we got down, it was only the beginning. I have often wished that I could return, and see if I could find the path we marched that awful winter. I could go on with the incident in the Senate in Carthage, when Mago put the lie to senator Hanno by dumping baskets full of Roman legionary rings but it would test your patience as well as your sense of humor.


So how is that for “historical fiction”? Like I said, probably all my imagination – I don’t even know if I can believe in reincarnation for that matter. My apologies for the far-off topic post. So to try to tie this back in...

If Blindbowman located his sites through the use of remote viewing (or "spirit walking") then it should be possible for another person to locate the sites via the same or similar methods, right? Gossamer have you considered trying your hand at it? It might be interesting to see if you perceive or receive similar information or different information, etc. Thank you in advance,
your friend,
Oroblanco

 

[cactusjumper]

Gossamer,

You may be correct. On page 13 of "The Psychology of the Psychic" by David Marks and Richard Kammann, the authors quote two senior physicists from the Stanford Research Institute, Russell Targ and Dr. Harold Puthoff:

"According to Targ and Puthoff, remote viewing is an ability available to everybody whose mind is open to the possibility. They claim that nobody they have tested failed to accurately describe selected locations that could not possibly be viewed or known directly via normal sensory means. Targ and Puthoff claim to have carried out "more than one hundred experiments" on remote viewing, "most of them successful."

Stanford Research Institute (SRI) did a great deal of research into remote viewing. While Kammann and Targ say that "everybody whose mind is open to the possibility" is capable, the question remains.......to what degree.

On the other hand, there are competent researchers who disagree with the conclusions of Targ and Kammann. Many would be bored with both sides of this debate, so suffice it to say, the jury is still out on "remote viewing". I understand that is not the case for folks who are living with the ability, such as yourself and bb.

For folks like me, it seems you have a gift.

Take care,

joe

 

[cactusjumper]

Roy,

"You did not miss a statement from Blindbowman that ALL of his claims are obtained via remote-viewing, and I did not mean to imply that. Some of his salient points are obtained by remote-viewing though, such as having spoken with Montezuma for instance and IF these are symbolic bits of information rather than literal as he is taking them, it would have a different meaning overall. I know that you and Blindbowman have some disagreements but still, I think that if we could get together around that campfire at the rendezvous, any hostility would quickly evaporate. Just my opinion of course."

If bb's conversation with Montezuma was achieved with "remote viewing", I don't understand the meaning of that ability. Can you quote any source where conversations are carried on with people that have been dead that long, using remote viewing?

Hostility is left at the gate for our Redezvous'. Dislike remains with us, but we strive for civility.

To be honest, I loved your story. As a fan of history, it seems like you were there.

Have a good night, my friend.

Joe

 

[Oroblanco]

Hi Joe - according to David Morehouse (formerly of Defense Intelligence Agency, and supposed to be an expert in the field of remote viewing) it is possible to communicate with the dead through remote viewing; here is his response from an interview:

Paul: David, in reference to your contact with Michael Foley, as described in Psychic warrior - what is your view on using RV to contact the 'dead'?

David Morehouse: It can be done however, it is not a clinical or scientific approach it is purely experiential that is to say it is critically wrought with analytical overlay or to define AOL. It is wrought with imagination you never know when pure data stops and imagination takes over and vice versa.

This would indicate (to me anyway) that he considers it possible but that the possibility of one's own imagination affecting any result would make it a VERY un-reliable method of obtaining information. However folks do rely on un-reliable methods to obtain information successfully all the time, just that my hunch is the results are far more often less-than-valuable. As it pertains to Blindbowman's reported encounter with Montezuma, it is not possible for me to say whether the event was an actual incident, something metaphysical, or something occurring entirely within his own imagination. Would he be able to discern the difference, in a state of 'spirit walking' between something physical and something that sprang from his own subconscious? If I were experimenting with remote viewing, any kind of "encounter" with any kind of "spirit" would be something would hesitate to put faith in, knowing that it very well could be just my own imagination at work.

What about you Joe? Would you consider trying your hand at it? It is supposed to be a pretty simple thing to do, and it would be interesting if another person using remote viewing were able to get any information concerning the sites of Blindbowman, and whether that information should match or clash with what he has reported (in my opinion). I am not able to do it, at least not successfully.
your friend,
Roy ~ Oroblanco

 

[cactusjumper]

Roy,

David Morehouse has created an industry/career around "remote viewing". While that does not mean he is not an expert on the subject, the fact that he "checked himself in to Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., claiming that he was talking to angels." does not bode well for using him as a believable source.

As soon as someone can come up with scientific proof, that you can actually have a conversation with Montezuma, I will be happy to consider the possibility. There is just no way to confirm the truthfulness of such a statement.

Rather than take this statement or that statement by bb, I choose to use the total weight of the "evidence" that he has presented here.......and elsewhere, to reach my opinions. Taken in toto, it creates a far different picture than focusing on his flashes of brilliance.

As you have said, being a bit off myself, I could be wrong. Of course I would try it.

Take care,

Joe

 

[Gossamer]

I would imagine that the RV protocols would 'probably' preclude having a visit with Montezuma. Spirit walking is more likely what that was, IMO.
The Protocols are a set of exercises, they are free flowing and yet very structured. If you guys wanna try it... Lets set up a few exercises, on the forum, I will pick the targets and try to type up the info I have so you can get ready.
You have to practise... its like playing a sport, or someone that is a mentalist. It has to be practised and done with a blind lead.
Anyone interested, say so later and we will pick a way to do it.
The Military used this and some sources say, still do. When I was introduced to it, I was very surprised at the process. If would be very beneficial for anyone that wants to try to the program to be able to 'send' me copies of your work at the different steps. Remember I'm picking targets, so at first it won't be anyone's fav goldmine.
Disclaimer: I haven't tried to teach anyone, and have hardly worked the program myself, so we can just see what we can see. But you aren't going to go off on some trip and find the 'ballcourt'... at first these targets will be blind... you have to get the mojo working and then what you do with it your business. LOL Let me know
Janiece

 

[MesaBuddy]

Hey, this has noting to do with Gossamer...I remote viewed and saw Montezuma sipping on hot chocolate...LOL
Oh, I forgot to mention...He was sipping it out of a golden cup.
Did I fail to mention...He was wearing a golden head dress...ROFL
Ed T
Hey Ed ,
While you were RVing , did you happen to notice if he was sitting in Starbucks

 

[Springfield]

Re: the everything site ...? <drifting off-topic>

Greetings friends, ... I don’t even know if I can believe in reincarnation for that matter. ...Oroblanco

Which type of reincarnation, the chicken soup-type or the split pea soup-type? Makes a big difference.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Ladies, gentlemen: I have posted on this before. Mostly in the dowsing site here on TN. Go to Dowsing, scroll down to ---->

Dowsing and paranormal experiences, post stories.
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I also posted --->

HI my Friend Carl, agreed, so can dowsing, among other things, "IF" we had the proper measuring devices, we do not! Today we are in about the same status as Galvani would be regarding our latest electronic Nana/bio technology. In his wildest dreams he could not imagine it, nor could he even begin to imagine the instruments necessary to measure it.

We are essentially in the same situation, we are attempting to measure a very subtle energy force, one which we haven't even the slightest idea of what it consists of by applying a purely physical brute force unrelated measurement system.

We haven't the slightest logical idea on how to develop a suitable measuring system. Frankly it is ignorance or ego of a high degree, to continuously quote it over and over again. It does not do Justice to you Carl since you do have an excellent brain, I can understand othersbeing addicted to it, but. it does not indicate a progressive or open imaginative mind.

A tremendous work was done by Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose on using Plants as bio instruments to measure subtle energies. He also won the Nobel peace prize on his work in Electronics and physics, in fact he is credited in being the first to send intelligible data via micro waves in th 1800's.

I believe that they are now actively using bio-instruments to investigate telepathy, A fascinating allied Field field if one wishes to research it.

Tropical; Tramp
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Discuss the "so called paranormal" which includes Dowsing, unusual talents, etv.
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D) HI. this gentleman map dowsed Tayopa from Alaska, to date he as never been in the state of '
Chihuahua. His dowsed map was almost 8o% correct with the data that we have found through conventional geophysical exploration results and sat imaging. I tried to get him to do it again as a sort of verification, this is the EM that I received from his son-in-law. Obviously map dowsing works for him , but how or why? My maps are full of squiggly lines from his pencil, where he hit a hot spot it is a solid black area and right on ??

Don Jose de La Mancha
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This is a sample of the posts in there.

Don Jose de La Mancha
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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI Again:

Curious, I aways thought that we used tuning circuits in conventional radio/electronics to differentiate between the different frequencies. I believe that we do the same via phase, among others, in detectors to identify ferrous /non-ferrous objects..

You do this every moment of your waking life via your eyes. You pickup the infinitely modulated light energy and convert this into an intelligible base. Without this ability you could never understand or see any color, or to go to the extreme, see anything.

This simple ability allows you to look for an indvidual Gold ring in a Jewelry shop with no hesitation or problem. You have filltered out that particular gold object's frequencies.

In fact, if you stop to think of it, our entire body is sensitive to a myriad of varying intensities and types of frequencies continuously and manages to filter out the important ones.

The one common factor is the brain. Is it "inconceivable" to think that it is also capable of performing the same function with other presently unknown or unmeasurable frequencies such as those used in Telepathy, dowsing, or others still not experienced or imagined?


Now you know why I personally think that an attack upon other energies or abilities in themselves is not backed by either sound logic or a truly open mind
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=af1733 ]
This simple ability allows you to look for an individual Gold ring in a Jewelry shop with no hesitation or problem. You have filtered out that particular gold object's frequencies.Tropical Tramp
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I would have to say this is a rather muddled way of thinking about sight. Our eyes can differentiate between colors and brightness levels, and you can call these frequencies if you'd like, but this does not mean that we are filtering frequencies.
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Hm and just what "is" light?
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If our eyes truly filtered frequencies, and each element has it's own frequency, then we would only see flashes gold if we walked into a jewelry shop, not one individual gold ring, nor would we see stones set into the ring, or other metals that the ring may have been made with.
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You see the reflected color, i.e. modified /modulated light. since each ring etc ., or whatever, is reflecting light energy whose frequency is modulated by the element /object in one manner or another to be a specific visualized color or frequency which your eyes detect out of an infinite amount of shades and hues strictly by the frequency of the reflected energy. But remember this is not a an elimination process.
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When you filter something, you remove all unlike objects from the item you are filtering. If your eyes actually filtered out everything but gold, that's all you would be able to see, and it would all look the same.
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Who ever mentioned filtering out everything but gold? The term filtering means both blocking and passing depending upon it's context or useage. In this case we are referring to selective filtering. Also don't t forget to factor the instantaneous variations. In this case we are in one sense filtering out the other frequencies, not the visual light frequencies.
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Your eyes focus on objects, but they never simply dismiss all other object that are in your sight-line.
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Your eyes can only focus Io one plane at a time. Since you move through many planes extremely rapidly you appear to be focused through out it's range by means of what is called persistant or residual vision why movies and tv works.
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For instance, you might be able to spot one dime in a jar full of pennies, but if that dime were covered in pennies, no amount of "frequency filtering" would allow you to see it. But you would still be able to see all the pennies that covered it, even if you tried to filter them out somehow.
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Hypnotic experiments will easily allow you to eliminate the pennies frequencies, but that does not mean that you will see the gold visually, but ----

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AF, This is the first post from you that I have actually enjoyed ,and indicates to me that you can be free thinker and with high intelligence. Kudos my friend.

Remember the brain is the final processor of all of the energies, fields, or stimuli in any form that the human or psyche is capable of receiving, and to an extent we can cumunicate with it, or modify it.


Tropical Tramp
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These are samples.






Don Jose de la Mancha














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[Gossamer]

LOL... Ok... maybe this isn't such a good idea? As I've said, I've never taught RVing and don't really practise, but since I'm not very mobile right now, thought I would give it a shot.
Janiece

 

[cactusjumper]

Gossamer,

I am up for this experiment. Would this work......I have drawn four simple items on a piece of paper which will remain on my desk......

What would I need to attempt to do to "send" the images to you?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[Gossamer]

Its ok... just take a deep breathe and visualize the images and send them to me.
Janiece

 

[cactusjumper]

I am doing that right now.....

Joe

 

[Gossamer]

OK (me=deep breathe)
I'm getting.... (adjusting my genie hat)
wait... wait

 

[Gossamer]

@$%&

tada... (bowing)
Janiece

 

[cactusjumper]

Are the symbols at the top what you received?

Joe

 

[Gossamer]

yes, Janiece