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Gossamer,

Thanks - that is our granddaughter, Victoria, with Mr. O. at the church.

One of our best treasures :D

B
 

Good morning Gossi LUV: Alamos is situated in a shallow valley with high mountains to the south west. The Principal drainage goes through the center of the town with many many homes on the flood plains leading into Alamos from the west.

The hurricane generated what locals call "choros" as it crested the ridge of the mountain. There were 10 of them simultaneously, equivalent to giant water hoses spewing out a high pressure stream of water perhaps 2o - 30 ft wide that simply scoured the earth down to bed rock. This tremendous amount of water, added to the normal hurricane's fall, entered two main drainages. The one to the west took out 4 modern concrete bridges. The main flow entered the flood plains leading into Alamos and simply eliminated any sign of houses before entering Alamos itself with a 20 -30 ft wall of water, an enormous flash flood. The main arroyo is in the center of Alamos.

As it entered Alamos, itself, the wall of water was reduced to 6 -7 ft only, but it took people on the street and all vehicles with it. Where it exited, it left vehicles almost exactly like domino's stacked up vertically, sometimes 5 - 7 in a row.

I was lucky, my small home in Alamos is on a small side street. Because of the splitting of the water force, , I only had 3 ft of water in front of the house, nothing entered to ruin my nice new tile floors and furniture. However my nearby neighbors weren't so lucky, they had 5 - 6 ft of water entering their homes. Most lost everything except the house itself, which in most cases, was severely damaged. As a result water, sewer, and electrical services were destroyed.

The Mexican gov't was marvelous, within 24 hrs they had food, water, & medical services in town by helicopter,, and that afternoon, 400 soldiers at our disposal to help dig out. I have no idea how they accomplished it, but by wendsday they had restored water, which had to be purified of course, and yesterday, electricity. They brought in 20 backhoes, and bulldozers and proceeded to clean out some 2 ft of mud and sand from the streets so that some order and clean up could be started.

The no of dead and missing will never be known since it was on sunday, about 11:00 pm, there were many celebrations going on. At the entering of the water to the main arroyo,some 3 miles west of the town, there was a fiesta of some 50 people with musicians in the arroyo, they are not accounted for? 20 Meters from where I park my car, they found a small girl, her mother & father, buried under 3 ft of sand and mud. Just now they found a car with 4 adults and two small girls also, the vehicle was buried under the sand, and they, frankly, were a bit ripe. They were promptly buried without proper identification, that will come later with the vehicle registration.

There is a standing reward of $50 for each body found or recovered. Most never will be found since they might lay anywhere for miles down below buried in sand or mud..

Sigh, life can be interesting no? Aren't you glad that you weren't here now?

Will post a few pictures later if you wish. Incidentally, Alamos had been declared a United Nations heritage site because of it's 1700 & 1800 periods of types of contruction, beauty and it's cleanliness.. Most of the larger homes were reconstructions identical with the original. My home, for example, has adobe walls some 4 ft thick. They say that the President and the Gov. of Sonora almost cried when they first flew over it to inspect.

This is my excuse for not posting.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Don Jose, I am very saddened to hear of your experience. Many disasters occurring all over. Sounds like the Mexican govt. is better on their feet than the US to me.
If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
Is strange I felt the loss of 'communication' from everyone, then got kinda overwhelmed with it all the other day and that is why I checked and said what I said. Just felt something was going on.
It is a strange time.
Prayers for you, Janiece
 

Afternoon Janiece, "Can you do anything for me"? Yes, as a matter of fact, how about a moral building huge smooochie !! snicker, :-[r blushing.

I would ask mi BETH also, but that sheep luvin woud be, is a jealous, unpredictable, Irishman, and besides is a good shot sooooo, sniff. I can dream though Beth.

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. I am quite well off. I always have about two weeks food on hand for quick trips to the Mts, and have a 1000 liter tank of fresh water on the roof, which I passed out to the less fortuate neighbors. The gov't has taken over now.
 

Don Jose', Dueno de Real y Minas de Tayopa wrote:
This is my excuse for not posting.
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Well that is a pretty darned good excuse - only sad to hear how bad things got and the loss of life. I am glad to hear that you came through okay (I shouldn't have doubted, but was starting to get worried) and that things are well on the way to normal. Also for the record, I wouldn't have a problem with Beth posting a smoochie for you. I am confident that even if Mrs O were hopelessly infatuated, El Tigre would take issue with it! :o :tongue3: :thumbsup: ;D :D I can also add that I (almost) never shoot at friends. ;D

Oroblanco
 

Wow amigo, looks like things got pretty bad! Sheesh - maybe you ought to consider building a vacation home at Tayopa? At least it would be safe from such HIGH waters, if difficult of access.

I wonder if all that water washing down the ravines and canyons exposed any gold or silver, or iron doors? Hmm....
Oroblanco
 

Geesh - I'm really sorry for anyone who was caught in that mess - even if they are ok - it's a terrible thing to go through.

B
 

Hello all!
Is the LDM get together still happening?
Janiece
 

Roy,

The Rendezvous went off as planned. Less of a turnout this year, which just made it better. Saturday was spent with everyone setting in the shade in front of my trailer and indulging in non-stop talk. You would have loved it.

Janice showed up Saturday and had a great time. I assume she will give a full report. T. Parker from TNet also showed up Friday night with his son. You will receive pictures, so you won't have been left completely out in the cold.

Take care,

Joe
 

So, Jose,

When you get it back, you shouldn't have to wash it for quite awhile, eh? ;D ;D


CJ,

When do the pictures come out?? (the LDM hunt pics).

B
 

Well, I made it out to the LDM gathering. It was amazing!!!

CJ and his beautiful wife's hospitality was wonderful. I had the delightful opportunity of meeting Cubby, Randy and I even the privilege of gazing at Bob Corbin's LDM gold ring.

I wish I had gone to the Friday night event. Next year I will be ready to stay out there.

I have to say that although I have really enjoyed the banter, bickering and most importantly the gracious inclusion on this forum, it was really a great time and I appreciate all of you! (even those of you who weren't there)
Janiece :bunny:
 

HI BETH LUV: You p[osted -->

When you get it back, you shouldn't have to wash it for quite awhile, eh?
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You mean that el Oro is volunteering?

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. Y-N-L didn't you stay in Oro Valley? We could have had many a great cofffee bulling session, sigh. I have been up ther twice lately on business.

p.p.s I believe that I would have far more confidence in your coffee making than his.
 

Beth,

I posted a few pictures on these two sites:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,189089.new.html#new

http://thelostdutchman.net/forums/showthread.php?t=410

We had a great time, as the number of people attending was down from last year. That made the conversations more of a one on one situation. As you can see, the gathering in my camp was much more casual and personal.

The first Dutch Hunter's Rendezvous had only 13 people in camp. This one reminded me of that event. Hope you and Roy make it for next year's gathering.

I will let Janiece post any pictures of herself. We really enjoyed meeting her, and her participation in the conversations.

Take care,

Joe
 

Great pics!!!!

Thanks for sharing them.

I miss Az. (especially now that it is getting colder and colder here).

Hope to take some time off this winter and spend some time back there.

(ps. Jose - my coffee IS better than his, but, he still makes good coffee. There is nothing like that first cup of coffee when you climb out of the old sleeping bag).



B
 

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