What would make the difference? The gold still has the same colour and the same Spanish markings.
I agree the waters of fable and legend are deep here.
Facts or evidences, are the same thing. I believe nobody who has a real evidence of Spanish mining in the Superstitions, will show it to you. And.... nobody would has a real evidence without knowing to read Spanish/Mexican maps. The Spanish never drew a canyon or a side canyon on their maps. Keep this as your first clue in your research.
marmar I agree in general with what you are saying. I sated earlier, that I have sat ant talked, to Salvador Seraglio at length about early Spanish mining in the Superstition Mountains. We about several locations that he had found, an investigated. If there is anyone who would know early Spanish it would be Salvador. I certainly am not a mining expert, and I doubt anyone else posting here is. At least I have 25 + days on the ground and I have seen some very interesting things, but I am not an expert either. If Sal says there was early activity, then there are signs of early mining present in the Supers. Jeff,
Jeff, there are many stories which came from real people who witnessed evidence of Spanish mining in the Superstitions. These stories are known to the people who searched the Superstitions for treasures and lost gold mines.
I did not say he heard about mines, I said he has been on sites in the Supers, I learned from Salvador a "First person conversation) this first hand knowledge from him, maybe I did not make that clear enough for you.
Why discussions and material are being posted concerning Spanish mines is the wrong time period and this is not Spanish. Jacob Waltz did not shoot Spanish, he shot Mexicans-same time as him. He described their vein and advised he saw 8 other mines, put a couple on his sketch map, and enough gold to make 20 men millionaires. What parts of his story are fake? The Mexicans, taught by the Spanish, were excellent map makers-fact. They documented the mines and locations including 'in the field'. I believe the Apache massacre as this was documented by them as well. The stories make sense and fits the documented history, as well as all the clues about this mine.
1 - This is a legit question . Who regulates and oversees Tonto National Forest? 2- Who regulates and oversees, the Superstation Wilderness Area? Who regulates and oversee the Massacre grounds? Thanks Jeff,
Thanks I believe I have a copy of the original, where El Sombrero is marked at 2500 feet. Where are the 20 marked mines you mentioned on the map, and where does it says Peters Canyon or Weavers Needle? Also you spoke about a article about what the Mexicans said, could yo post that? Thanks Jeff,
The surface manager for the Tonto National Forest, including the Superstition Wilderness Area and all it's trails, is the United States Forest Service - an agency of the Agriculture Department.
Ok, and I say I was on the Moon. Now you learned it from the "first person convesation".
Well, technically that would be correct, that would mean I had learned you said you were on the moon, but that would not mean you were on the moon unless you were an astronaut who had been to the moon, which you are not, so in that case the first person would be receiving a questionable statement. First-person knowledge is always dependent on how credible the person repeating to the first-person listener is. Salvador did not tell me he has been to the moon, had he, it would be highly suspect since he is not an astronaut. Sal may be the most credible person currently alive today with knowledge on whether or not there is evidence of early Mexican - Spanish mining in the Supers. So what is it you? or who he is? Jeff,
Who said Sombrero meant mountain, of course it means hat.
Jeff,
Wow speaking of rude grumpy old armchair wannabes!
Wish I had been around when it wasn't a wilderness. I'd have me a couple claims. They would of had to rethink it as a wilderness at least a decent lil portion of it anyways. Sucks to be old but not old enough.
