Treasure Clue, can you help?

[jordie]

okay im not even close to done reading all these posts but i have a few things to offer.

first, this is most likely reading WAY into it, but hell, its just an idea.

on page 41, there is either salt or sugar in the background, if salt, theres a "lake"... okay a puddle of spilled tea. salt lake city perhaps. reading way too into it of course. haha. but also that being in utah, there is the spot with the cracker on it where there is 2 lines intersecting like the borders near utah and 3 other states making that corner.

also on 80 there are tipped over pots making "rivers" or great lakes or something.

just something to consider!

 

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[CMSCHUT]

Jordie , WELCOME to our group. I don't think anyone here will think your ideas are stretching. we've all done the same . Some one posted on that idea , but figured the cracker as nevada .

 

[jordie]

another thing i JUST noticed is that on page 6, the C in chapter thirteen is black where all the rest is purple.

i suppose it could be an error, but im just bringing up what i see.

 

[CMSCHUT]

Dkos, thanks for the site . I just think he's giving us hints all over and why would he it like that . what i mean is it seemed as if it were a hint i'll check out the site. is it public property?

Scottzilla, thanks fo the anagram and the site as well . i'm gonna check it out also . carol

 

[gonemad]

"........sometimes even a blind squirrel can find an ACORN."----------------------------------------------------GET ACORN KEY........page 68

 

[CMSCHUT]

GONEMAD , Great work . can you help us out on how you came up with it . I was wondering where you've been , always liked your ideas and input , but now i know .

 

[gonemad]

i have always thought there was some kind of message there after i read the c.b. and then was reading somewhere else or here cant remember about a web site to help decipher things so i looked at it. i like it better than simon guys thing so i tried it.first---the figures are all almost different the weapons pretty much have nothing to do with the code the body and heads positions do and the arms and legs also.so i just assigned the figures a letter and entered them into DECRYPTO 6.0 by Edwin Olson web site thingy and process of elimanation. With that said i am no way 100% sure, i just felt it was a possibility and i haven't seen any one else make any attempts. the quote is from Tom Clancy's The Teeth of the Tiger.nothing to do with ATT

 

[CMSCHUT]

Gonemad, thanks for the help. I believe Scottzilla gave us the site . Thanks Scottzilla. I do like it better than Simon Sings also . I was going to look at that page last night when i read the post from you . I always thought that those darklings bodies looked like greek letters so i looked up greek letters and was going to try and see what i could make out that way . Your new hint leads me to page 52 and am maybe going to work on it today after i do some tracing on pg 86 . I also think that in the TOC when it lists chap 16 ... THE JEWELS ARE HIDDEN IN THE FOREST ... and there are acorns there when he could've put a creature or two there instead. Just a thought . Thanks again gonemad , carol

 

[CMSCHUT]

Sorry to post again , but gonemads acorn key reminded me .... if you look at pg 45 in the drop cap box at where the fairy is pointing and the area there by the dragons neck. what i think the fairy is pointing at is the hole at the top of a key. that area to me looks like a key . what do you all think ?

 

[jordie]

i disagree with the theory of them all being in national parks. on page 10 ms states "you might even find one by accident, as you walk across a field or down a street."

 

[gonemad]

i was also curious of the half of a butterfly drawing type thing at the bottom of page 52

 

[zuse]

gonemad - are you talking about the butterfly in the acorn on the lower left of page 52? If so, why are you calling it "half" of a butterfly? Or, are you looking at something else?

ACORN:

Acorns hold signifigance as a Scandanavian and Celitc symbol for life, fertility, and immortality. For this reason it is often sacred to the god Thor, who is ruler of fire and fertility. When it is carried on the person, it can often preserve youthfulness. Commonly believed to be androgynous. Also acts as the symbol for strength. The acorn is also the seed of the OAK tree.

OAK = KOA (Kampgrounds of America)

Zuse

 

[zuse]

gonemad - are you talking about the butterfly in the acorn on the lower left of page 52? If so, why are you calling it "half" of a butterfly? Or, are you looking at something else?

ACORN:

Acorns hold signifigance as a Scandanavian and Celitc symbol for life, fertility, and immortality. For this reason it is often sacred to the god Thor, who is ruler of fire and fertility. When it is carried on the person, it can often preserve youthfulness. Commonly believed to be androgynous. Also acts as the symbol for strength. The acorn is also the seed of the OAK tree.

OAK = KOA (Kampgrounds of America) Carol, they have streets and fields. Are they public or private? My idea of camping is staying in a nice hotel, so I don't too much about them.

Zuse

 

[jordie]

i think he might be talking about the thing above the S in the second acorn from the right on the bottom. it doesnt appear to be a letter.


P.S. has anyone noticed what appears to be some word written on page 38 near the top fairy's head and the N in "digging". it looks something like tacu or something.

 

[CMSCHUT]

The symbol to me at first looked like the greek #2. jewels said it looked like the greek letter D . I don't know . maybe it's neither . let me know what you think .

 

[gonemad]

the only reason i called it a half butterfly thing is because i put my mirror against it and it looked like a butterfly drawing---yes the simble in the acorn at the bottom of the page center right above the S

 

[CMSCHUT]

Gonemad , i looked at the symbol as you said and now i see it . Thanks? . I believe it is another butterfly and can see it now as the half without the mirror. Great sleuthing . Also wanted to say i enjoy your ideas and reading what you post .

Also wanted to say i went with your other clue you posted on the darkling swarm and went to pg 52. I thought the letters on the acorns may say something else so today hopefully will anagram those letters from the poem. also thought that if you took all the letters and took out the doubles may spell something too. so here they are if anyone else wants to give it a go

O D N I E T H A S W G R Y U .

I'm gonna also work on it today at lunch and hopefully get something to post .

 

[hoppperr]

Carol,

I started anagraming those letters and the first thing I came up with:

YOU A SHREWD TING

I thought I'd share it because it's pretty amusing. I am going to keep working with it, when my grandson gives me some free time!

Peggy

 

[CMSCHUT]

Peggy , I'm still laughing . you're the best . I didn't have time today was onto other things ' but hopefully when max is asleep i'll get some time to work it out . Like i said i don't know if there's anything there or not , but gonemad got me to thinking.

 

[salkns]

Okay, here it goes...I've been thinking on the poem, sub poem and poem on the cover of the Nomenclature book...

"An even code one piece nary"= binary (like scottzilla said earlier)

"Moon like moon like" = 1001 (Moons are 10 pages apart and ten pages apart. The second set of moons mirror the first 2 moon pictures,(The mirror image of 10 is 01) and it follows the "one on ending" part of the dream as well. Not only that but if I understand binary numbers correctly, 1001 equals 9 which fits with the "found by 9 where they hide". Also all the letters in "one zero zero one" are in the dream. I have not anagramed the rest.

"Reveals the name on which the treasures abide" = reveal is seven letters. As in reveal IS the name. This goes with "It was the seven that is the key" as well as chapter seven which has the Nomenclature in it.

"Have you know treasures three"= the 3 different classes of fairies in the Nomenclature where we get to know them.

"Above earth and below sky be"= horizon as someone stated earlier, is also 7 letters. A seperate key.

Dragons= nothing to do with anything, except it is 7 letters? Maybe?

"The answer is not half, but is not whole"- because the answer is KNOT HOLE

I think there is alot of word play and riddles. Here is an awesome site to check out.

http://www.puzzlers.org/guide/?expand=composing

It even has info. on word squares, which I have not had a whole lot of time to dive into, but think will help with the 5x5 grid. I still think it is a 13 letter word surrounded by 12 other letters that will complete the 5x5 grid.

I have been trying to get away from the drawings and work on the poems more, since I think they have more answers as to where and how to look at things in the book, than anything else I've seen so far. I mean, they've got to be there for a reason, right? I'm trying to look at a logical way to link the different parts together to know which token goes to which. Like the ant will have "dragons" as it's key since the ant's mate is hidden in the cap drop box with the stone dragon on it. To paraphrase, MS stated in an interview on another site that you should know which one you are searching for. There should be no question as to which one you will be going out to get, and this is a game of skill, not chance. To me, this means there is a logical progression, where one clue will be linked to another.

Any and all feedback is welcome, everyone. Please let me know what you think.
Sal