Treasure Clue, can you help?

[Trapape]

Welcome back Nolan! How are you doing on your finals? Hope that they go well.
Before I was asking what your thoughts were on taking the different colored letters throughout the book including the letters in the dropcap and trying to make out words from them using the colors from the border. I have looked a couple of other books and have found that the black C is in there TofC also. This leads me to believe that it is black for a readon and maybe this is the reason.
Very interesting find about the mushrooms. I didn't know that even us old dogs can learn something new everyday.
Tracie

 

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[nolemiester]

Trapape, the only problem with the theory of the colored letters throughout the book is that there is a plethora of colored letters in the book. One way that your theory could work though, is if there is a set of directions or arrows that point to the correct letters to use. Man, wouldn't we feel stupid if we found out the celtic knots were just a cool little design lol. But maybe the solution is right in front of us. HMM...(Deep thinking with fist under chin)

---Nolan

 

[CMSCHUT]

Sassy I do see the eagles you posted on also good eye. I don't know about the box talking , but i think the trees are . Zac told pook that they are talking trees and i think as trapape said they are giving us a part of the puzzle . I'm thinking the branches are alot of the clue not really sure . I was working on some of the branches , but as i posted only found critters snail and butterfly . On the right side in the branches i found the word with , but the letters are layered it's taking time to figure it out .

 

[Trapape]

Ah but Nolan, what if you only used the letters in the drop caps along with the black C? All the letters in the drop caps are one of the colors in the knots. Though I think that a Y has a couple of colors but wouldn't that mean it is because the Y may be used for either color? To only use 5 colors for twenty chapters leads me to think that it is for a reason. What do you think Nolan?

 

[Paradox]

Things have been somewhat slow on this website, so I though I would add my proverbial "2 cents" worth.

I picked much of the following from another website, so I am not claiming original credit. ?

Begin with the phrase, ?Within the text you have the key? (at page 48)

Describing the various types of ?joint? woodworking skills Zac learned from his father, at page 48 MS tells us: ?Dovetail, cross-lapped, mortise, tenon?, which anagrams to:

STARTS IN DREAMS
EVEN CODE IS PLOT LOOP

In literary terms, a ?Plot Loop? is a circuit in which an incident between two threads causes a second incident between two threads. ?I know that confusing but it can be diagramed, see this website:

http://www.spinelessbooks.com/keeler/how2/

Is this the illusive ?key??

Can anyone figure out the "Plot Loop" in the Dream?

 

[Lucidious]

Ok guys this is it. I'm going out on the 2nd. What I found truly blew my mind. MS, that tricky SOB! I think I am still missing a part but I do have enough to go on a long trip. It's about a 12 hour drive from here. I have it down to a half mile radius or so. I'm hoping I will find clues on the way but it's not necessary. Everything fits like a glove. It really was right in front of my face. Keep looking guys! The clues are definitely there. If I do find the token you all will be the first to know. I may be gone for a week or so.

 

[Trapape]

Good Luck on your hunt Lucidious. Hope that you find your token. I bet that the 2nd feels like a long time away I hopw that it goes fast for you.

 

[CMSCHUT]

Lucidious , good luck . I know everyone here is waiting on one of us to make a breakthrough . We are all on your hunt in spirit let us know how it goes .

 

[bamacherf]

Trapape and Nolan,
About the spiders page. Is there 5 colors or 6? You have the green, black, red yellow and blue but there also is orange. Or is there? Is the orange a color in the knot or is there no color in the knot and it is the orange background showing through? This has been driving me crazy. "Zac could see the Great Forest more clearly...." Is this speaking of chapter 2? It may be. Maybe the 5 colors can be read with the help of the 5x5 box. The knots probably do not lead to a token but they may be an important step to finding them.

 

[Trapape]

Bamacherf- That 6th color bothered me to. I do think that it is just the background and probably the starting point for whatever the clue is. If I am correct in my memory there are only two of the orange spots and they are next to one another. This page is really bothering me because I feel that it is the line in the poem that could really help us all along. I hope it is at least.

 

[tomaf38]

Can anyone figure out the "Plot Loop" in the Dream?

Paradox,

Everything that happens in the dream happend in some form in real life. Go back and corralate what happens in dream to what happens in life:

In dream Pook becomes a beautiful crystal jewel - In life pook becomes crystallized
In dream Zac stands at mouth of Grotto - In life he stands at the mouth of the Grotto.

Ok are you still with me? Here is the strange one

In the dream he sees something that opens his eyes and the sky shines bight as day and he sees things differently. 5 x 5 box

So what is it in real life that triggers him seeing things different? LOVE

He hears Ana "think" I Love You. "Then in a rush, as if dawn had broken bright as noon all of Ana's thoughts filled Zac's mind. He understood not only her love for him, and grief for pook...."

I think LOVE is a key somehow to solving the 5 x 5 box.

 

[sassy]

i liked your thinking however you missed a important section what about the thunder on 88 it says as in his dreams the moment he saw it zac heard a growl of thunder?? where is the thunder in his dreams??help me im drowning in words lol
please dont stop keep them thought processes coming they help everyone think think think and the thinking will eventually answer the questions
that was a great post up there thank you

 

[hoppperr]

Actually, on page 88, it does say,

"As in his dreams, the moment he saw it, Zac heard a growl of thunder." So, it was in his dream.

Sassy, Toma, all new members/posters: I like your ideas. Thank you for bringing a fresh perspective to the forum. Sassy, I was reading your posts about the eagles, bunny, etc. Very keen observations and right in front of us the whole time. Have you seen the cat in the tree on 86?

 

[CMSCHUT]

Tomaf, great post thanks . i just reread you're post it may be THINK LOVE OR LOVE IS THE KEY .

Hoppperr , gotta check out the cat . let you know , carol

 

[salkns]

Lucidious, All the best! How very exciting!!!

I posted last night about midnight or so, and now I do not see it, so I thought I would throw it out there again for discusison. Has it been mentioned that there are 2 chapters with the same title in the book? #2 which starts on page 20 is titled "The Great Forest", and then chapter 20 is also "The Great Forest". This is what I'm going to check out. "To Helen". It is 7 letters and E.A.Poe wrote 2 stories/poems of the same title. Perhaps there is a Beale cipher here? I'll let you all know what I find...
Sal

 

[CMSCHUT]

salkns, if you go back to page 21 NOLEMEISTER was kind enough to print it out for us all . I'm not much with poetry sad to say , but i did find it interesting also and hope that yuo will have better luck than i did with it. Nolan also went to the trouble and posted another further down that i think is worth a look at also . I myself thought it was too coincidental .

 

[tomaf38]

This is what I'm going to check out. "To Helen". It is 7 letters and E.A.Poe wrote 2 stories/poems of the same title. Perhaps there is a Beale cipher here? I'll let you all know what I find...
Sal

salkns

Some food for thought: "To Helen" is in red ink and in the same font as the 15 mixed numbers at the beginning of the book. Poe's poem "To Helen" has 15 lines.

 

[tomaf38]

Does anybody know who the Nightengale family is quoted on the back cover?? MS gives a description of the person for the first two quotes but nothing for the third.? ?Funny thing is, I already knew who the first two were without the description but I have know idea who the Nightengale family is.? Did a whole family really only say one or two sentences?

I checked out anagrams for "Nightengale family" and got too many to go through:

A GEM LEAF THING INLY
A GEM LEAF LYING THIN
A LEAF GEM LYING HINT

Could the entire quote be a clue?

 

[sassy]

please please please point out them kitty cats to me helllllllllllllppppppppp!!!!!!
and the thunder thing maybe i misunderstood? he hears the thunder in the dream but when in real life that was my question? and i figured out why he never used a Q when writting his book...............answer he knew we would have plenty of QQQQQQQQQ"s so he did not want to waste them lol

 

[LitDoc]

I have no idea who it is either. ?However, when posed with a question on whether hints were on the covers and back material (after the story), MS said hints were contained within the story. ?(This apparently includes the introduction that he wrote.)