Tucson Stage Coach Robberies early 1900s

[towile]

anyone know of holdups of the Tucson Stagecoachs late 1800...early 1900s?

 

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[davidtn]

Hi...and your name would be?...and you hunt with a?...and you're located?...

Try introducing yourself first. You might get more responses that way.

 

[towile]

I'm so sorry about that. I'm from Oklahoma, have never hunted for anything...but knew an individual who spent some time checking out an old supposedly... stage coach robbery about 1900 up toward Eloy. He made a trip back in 1970's. He didn't find anything but left me some words about it and stirs my curiosity since I'm getting into the retirement age. it would be a challenge to find out more if possible about the area before making a trip there myself. Thanks for leading me into unknown territory.

 

[jerrync]

welcome to t-net have you tried the az forum might find something there about it maybbe ask there too someone there might know about it

 

[towile]

Thanks, no I haven't but will try it.

 

[sasnz]

This might sound like a dumb question but why the interest? was their a recorded bullion that was stolen and never recovered. Where the thiefs caught or killed before spending the cash. Keep in mind that alot of stories are just that stories. can you get any records from the archives that may support a hunt.

sasnz

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/AZ-Treasures6.html

 

[Tom_in_CA]

sasnz is right: most of these "stage coach robberies" and "lost mines" are just embellished stories, superstition, etc.... Based perhaps in a kernal of truth, but then gone-wild. How many more "dying miners crawling into a wild-west saloon, the last survivor of an indian attack, reveals a lost mine, *just* before he dies" can you take? The problem with robbery stories, is someone gets on old 1880s newspaper microfilm and reads that "The loot was not recovered", and makes the automatic assumption that "it's not recovered". But you have to remember, the person writing that article back then was at the whims of whomever he was getting his info from. Who's to say it wasn't recovered and spent by either the crooks, or the posse that chased them and *claimed* not to have found it? Do you really think that if Joe Blow that same year went out and found it, that he'd be making a followup article "I found it"?

But it doesn't do any good. The human psyche wants SO hard to believe in treasure lore (so as not to be "left out"), that we accept any written sources as gospel truth. Afterall, it's in writing, "so it must be true"? Having worked on plenty of police evidence and stolen loot recovery cases, and then subsequently reading the articles in the next day's newspaper, I can tell you that .........100 yrs. from now, a lot of assumptions are going to be based on stories, where whatever got there, passed through the filter of whomever was telling the paper. It could only have been worse back in the 1880s/90s when sensationalism sold newspapers.

 

[Sundancer]

Not sure of that one but when I lived in Phoenix, heard tales of a stagecoach strongbox somewhere by 'Saddle Mountain' near Tonopah. Also, many stories of high-graded gold stashes from the Vulture mine in the hills near Wickenburg..

Mike

 

[davidtn]

But it's on the internet so it must be true

 

[mick56]

If you never look, you will never find.......

 

[davidtn]

A very good point indeed.

 

[mick56]

"Also, many stories of high-graded gold stashes from the Vulture mine in the hills near Wickenburg.."

I have a sister that lives about 1 mile from the Vulture Mine. Would be interested in those stories!

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

arizona is full of nasty little events that some how have fallen from history...
eloy was a rough place to hang until about, well..i still wouldnt hang there...

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Tom: You posted -->

It could only have been worse back in the 1880s/90s when sensationalism sold newspapers
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Hmm, just what sells them and TV news today ? Certainly not thte truth.

Don Jose de La Mancha (El modern Till Eulenspiegle)

 

[boogeyman]

Tayopa,

Me thinks you're 1001% correct my friend!

 

[towile]

Yes, you are all right, the mind doesn't want to let a chance of a treasure get away without spending time thinking about finding it.
A friend of mine...dead now...was in prison in California with..."a very old Mexican dude who died of pneumonia in prison"...who robbed the Tucson stage southwest of Eloy, hid the saddlebags, got caught and died in prison. Good story...I suppose.