Underneath all this stuff there are still colonial treasures ! Mass. copper

MaineRelic

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Hit another in town city owned lot today ! Really just an extra wide median / gully between two major 1 way streets in the city, 30 yards wide in places ! over a 100 yards long. I knew it was going to be trashy ! I also knew it was in an old part of town ! There was so many signals I was getting discouraged.I was digging nothing but clad and bottle tops and not really seeing any signs of of older activity and after an hour I was thinking about heading to a site that I have already done alot of the trash signal cleanup on when I got a good sounding tone and and at 6 inches down I turn out a couple of oyster shells and just underneath these I got the hand cuff ! It has been cut by the way ! I knew this was an encouraging sign. just a few feet from there I got another good tone and again about 6/7 inches out amongst the oyster shells pops a large cent. I knew right away by its size it was not a coronet and probably a colonial copper so I put it in a keeper bag and go back at it. About 10 yards away I get another decent hit and now have a half penny in my hand . Some #of clad and bottle tops later I find the thimble and finally the small buckle ! Checked my watch and it was time to leave. 2 and 1/2 hours of hunt time in and now I was feeling good about my hunt ! I drove home anxious to see what the 2 coppers were . I dumped my trash bag onto the driveway and pulled the clad out of my pocket which included a full roll of dimes I had also found this morning. 50 dimes in 1 hole ! As soon as I took the coppers out of the keeper bags to lay on top for photo the coins had dried a bit I could see the eagle and was very excited ! An 1788 commonwealth of Massachusetts cent to go with the Mass militia button I found 2 weeks ago !! Unbelievable !! I could get no detail off the 1/2 penny but the Mass copper is in pretty good shape !! Thanks for looking MaineRelic.
 

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Congrats on a very nice state copper! After looking for quite awhile I am fairly certain the variety is a Ryder 12-M. I was hoping it was a 7-M for you but the arrow point is too far down from the pleat to be that, so I see nothing else that is an exact match other than 12-M.

Key indicators for variety , the seventh pleat is clear of the leg, the point of arrow below tunic is about the length of the arrowhead. On the other side the spacing of the numbers in the date, the seven barbed arrows are widely spread and the last should be pointing to the period (which I am not sure I can see in the photo but looks correct spacing)

Don
 

Superb!! Beautiful patina and detail on that copper!! I have dug Vermont's, Connecticut's, New Jersey's, Virginia's, and even a Bermuda copper.....but we just don't see those Mass coppers here in PA :icon_scratch:
 

I just want to thank each and every one of you again for your kind remarks and voting this coin on the banner !! I have to say I was very surprised when I got home from my hunt after work and saw my coin on the BANNER !!! Thanks Again ! I love it when BIG COPPER hits the banner ! MaineRelic
 

very nice looking old copper, congrats on a great find and making the banner! :thumbsup:
 

That copper withstood many years of mother nature and still appears to be in VERY very fine shape! Awesome!
 

That's one SWEET copper! Just voted for banner! Lots of people indicated banner, but hasn't made it yet. (Remember: you must vote banner on the left side of the screen under Brian's first post.)
 

Congrats bud :headbang: :headbang: :hello2: That's the BEST Massachusetts Copper that I've seen posted here on TreasureNet and she sure is a Beauty!!! :wink: :wink:
 

Don in SJ said:
Congrats on a very nice state copper! After looking for quite awhile I am fairly certain the variety is a Ryder 12-M. I was hoping it was a 7-M for you but the arrow point is too far down from the pleat to be that, so I see nothing else that is an exact match other than 12-M.

Key indicators for variety , the seventh pleat is clear of the leg, the point of arrow below tunic is about the length of the arrowhead. On the other side the spacing of the numbers in the date, the seven barbed arrows are widely spread and the last should be pointing to the period (which I am not sure I can see in the photo but looks correct spacing)

Don
Thanks for the correction in Variety Don. I was looking at the "Coinfacts" site, and the pics are in B&W. So tough to accurately tell. I did my best. I NEED A BREEN BOOK, and will purchase a used one soon. :read2: :thumbsup: I also looked at the 12-M but thought the "1" was too high. His is off-set lower than the "7". Of course I'm looking at B&W plates too.
 

Re: Underneath all this stuff there are still colonial treasures ! Mass. cop

Outstanding Finds ! Way to go! your perserverence paid off with a great find ! Congrats on the banner ! Being in Florida, I haven't gotten into colonial coinage but what a great find ! Condition is amazing for a copper coin of that age.
 

Congrats on the Banner , MR :headbang: Magnificent Mass :o , my quest for Mass coins has been a dismal failure :P I have family up there so all is not LOsT Best to you pardner 8) " no Mass copper dawg" :icon_thumleft:
 

An absolutely stunning coin and piece of history! :headbang: Congrats MaineRelic!! :hello2:

IM
 

Good gravy, the stuff you out-easters find...

That coin looks like it went to ground no more than 10 years ago!
Could it have gone somehow from someone's collection to the site?

Well-dug! ..and well-struck by the minters.
 

CMDiamonddawg said:
Congrats on the Banner , MR :headbang: Magnificent Mass :o , my quest for Mass coins has been a dismal failure :P I have family up there so all is not LOsT Best to you pardner 8) " no Mass copper dawg" :icon_thumleft:
i hear ya on that one dawg. i had to come back and look at that baby again. :laughing7: willy
 

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